On how to deal with it

January 31, 2008 at 11:27 pm (Uncategorized) (Computer, internet. Bell, ISP, Sympatico)

A great constant high speed Internet service, or problem plagued one rather?

Did you pay for an high speed unlimited download, constant, reliable Internet services from Rogers, Videotron, Telus, Bell Sympatico, or what ever? and you clearly you still do know that your ISP, Internet service provider’s system is slow, sluggish, constantly downed, and they does not give you even their original promised high speed rather? Are most of these ISP companies the same, or what they are all good or all bad too?

Well be of good cheer, for you likley here are not alone too, their are likley now hundreds of thousands of persons even like you. Complaining now too.

So what can you personally really do good about any of it now too?

Well you first now call supposedly your Canadian Bell Sympatico technical representative or what ever, rightfully and next likely they will refer you an supposedly appropriate Internet site, send you supposedly appropriate emails or you will by phone be told any of the following -

1: The problem is with your Computer operating system, you might have to contact Microsoft for it might be defective. But if that was the case none of the programs on your computer would be working firstly.

2: The problem is in your memory or hard drive cache, or your actual memory capacity, management of it, but you have already rebooted your computer, deleted the temporary files and it does not help.

3: The problem is with the much too many spyware on your computer, but you already have a good spyware checker, and you do a weekly regualr maintenace on your computer too.

4: The problem is likely a virus on your computer causing all these problems, but you already have a good virus checkertoo.

5: The problem might be with you home, office internal phone line connections, or the related cable connections and filters, and so they may if you are lucky send you a technician to look at it.. they sent you 6 of them in one year even.. it does not help basically.

6: The problem might be with your modem itself, so they next do send you another one, and next another one and next another one too.. 6 of them..

7: The problem might be in your inappropriate initialization, configuration of your modem, or your emailing software and they will help you on line to reconfigure it.

and none of this it does not help you? But why?

- Maybe you just run out of luck and the representative you dealt with is firstly totally incompetent, as it is likely in half of the cases to start of with, and the representative they falsely do next object to you for your raised your voice in protest, and so they does even hang up on you. They do not want to admit they are incompetent, basically stupid to you for their boss, or another department, might find out if he the boss does not know it already?

- So you do immediately call back and ask to speak to the manager, the Bioss himself and likely next also find out he knows nothing about computers, or even about bitt torrents too?

- So next your complaint phone call is now eventaully transferred to the Bell Sympatico accounting department, but they still do want to know why you are talking to them? for they know nothing about these problmes of yours, nor especially about the Internet, and they really cannot help you.

-Finally you next are even of you are lucky passed to the main Bell executive expediting office itself, and yes they finally do promise to look at it, to help you, but firstly to you they complain to you they are over booked and under staffed and they next do promise to call you back, days, weeks, months later and hey still have not called you back too..

So what do you do next?

Maybe the main Internet service problem is not in your home or office, but God forbid it may be at Bell Sympatico itself? your ISP? Their respective, representatives technicians, equipment, services too . It is likley next generally a long drawn out affair before this or any of it is or was admitted.

Likkely -

1: They your ISP have been, are cutting back on your email capacity and

2: They you ISP have been, are cutting back on your download speed?

but now why would they even try to do that?

What they have over advertised their capabilities, and are unable to meet most of the customer demands on their services to start of with anyway?

Why? Firstly to make more profit, money and also to try to save spending their money installing any more needed high speed lines, because they do not have high speed fibber cable in most of Canada to start off, and high speed is only available what 4.5 km from the center of most Bell centers, in most of major big cities, and for the rest of you, they seem to only pretend only they are giving you high speed on their old, definitely inadequate phone lines.

But did you firstly even check your actual download speeds being delivered by your ISP to you at any of the any reliable “Internet speed test” sites available on the net? Use a search engine to find them, try them all if you have to too. or try http://www.speedtest.net/results.php

So next you do find out that your download speed as at now being 1 megs, or 2.2 megs but not the 6, 7 or 16 your had been promised and had paid for? Wow what a revelation?

Of course you immediately next do call your ISP, or Bell Sympatico technical representatives or even the Bell management and they assure you that you have the original promised speed, but what else did you expect them to tell you, to truthfully tell you that they have not been keeping their high speed promises to you and many others the last many years? Now you got to be dreaming, or joking? if you think they might firstly tell you the whole truth, even if one honest person now next of five at Bell admits to it, the other 4/5 will likely next still deny it.

Or worse than all that Bell Sympatico now says to you that if you enter now into a new, higher cost, higher speed contract with them they will overcome all of your Internet problems immediately? But can you even next trust them to do that if they have not kept their old promises to you firstly still too? Read the fine print on the new contract , many people wgo did not next found out they had lost their unlimited download capabilities.

Such above Problem ISP services has been the reality of many persons reality in my neighborhood

So next you finally do talk to your knowledgable, technical, nerdy friends, others and ask them what you should about it next?

1 One group says you should just forget the wool thing, that they had ripped you off all these years now too, and just pay the 100 cancellation fees and go to a new Internet service provider, and what makes them think it will be any better next there too?

2 The second group says try their new higher speed contract, likely with the same old problem behavior

3 The third group says fight back, and what is the best way to do this

- Write a letter to bell with a copy to your what useless too elected officials, Consumer Affairs Ministers, and copies to the major news editors asking your ISP or Bell to respect their past contract agreement with you and also to give you a credit for your past inadequate services too ASAP. Immediately too.

- Register in wrting a complain with a proper regulating body..

So now you win your battle, get your original promised high speed Internet services finally, and they do give you your original promised download, speed, give you a credit as well for 6 months free Internet service, and you are on the ball, rolling high. But for how long? What the right hand gives the left hand can take away?

A month later you sadly, furiously do discover they your IP broke their agreed upon past promises to you, they even cut back on their high speed delivery to,,, etc.,

So what do you do now?.

Repeat the whole process… or move on? It is your choice still.

Broadband firms grilled over speed limits Broadband Finder
The Press Association - Guardian Unlimited - Broadband Watchdog - Which?
all 27 news articles »

UK ISPs pressed to explain slow broadband
Telecoms.com (subscription), UK - 11 Oct 2007
The UK regulator’s consumer advisory body, the Ofcom Consumer Panel, has called on internet service providers to clarify advertised broadband speeds. …

ISPs quizzed over slow broadband
Which?, UK - 10 Oct 2007
Britain’s top internet service providers (ISPs) have been asked to explain why consumers often don’t get advertised broadband connection speeds. …

In august Which? reported that although many packages advertise speeds of ‘up to’ 8 megabytes per second, the average speed for such connections was 2.7 Mbps.
http://www.scenta.co.uk/Gadgets/1707239/ofcom-calls-for-try-before-you-buy-broadband.htm

Are you looking for a Cable or DSL, phone Internet service? First Search for the Internet providers available in you area, and also do ask your neighbors what is their experience concerning their Broadband service. Ask about:

1. The “Speed” that they actually get.
2. Down time experience.
3. Speed Capping, and port blocking.
4. Tech support. In a case that the service is not obtained from the owner of the system (I.e. the Internet provider is not your regular Cable or Telephone provider). It is very important to ask how Tech support works. In many situations the Tech. on site response can be very slow since your provider might need the actual line owner to provide the service.

Here is another truth that should have been dealt with a decade ago by the governments, governess too. Bell Sympatico’s poor Internet speeds, false, misleading adverting.. “Anyone can deliver the Internet. Only Bell brings you Total Internet. New Sympatico Total Internet service from Bell gives you everything you need for a complete Internet experience, including: Consistently fast access that’s never shared ²Consistently fast access that’s never shared Your Internet access is yours alone, so you’ll enjoy consistently fast speed, without frustrating slowdowns, even during peak hours. We have one of the largest fibre optic networks in Canada, and we continue to bring this leading-edge technology to even more homes, improving your Internet experience.” http://www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpPromo_Int_Total.page? I have paid for and rightfully expected as promised a steady reliable high speed Internet system since 2001 but I have not received it for most of the time. I got the opposite.”Part of the problem that the Sympatico division is having, is that it appears to have over estimated the distance over which its network can operate effectively. Company policy states that high-speed service only operates effectively for clients that are located within four and a half kilometers from a Bell central office. But according to one Bell employee, many customers that are close to, but not over, the distance limit are experiencing slow downloads speeds and difficulty logging on at peak periods. So why is Sympatico selling the service, when it can’t deliver? “ peter@peterdiekmeyer.com ”We have one of the largest fibre optic networks in Canada”, is also misleading because 90 percent of Canada’s geographical area cannot have this access, and that means that at least 50 percent of Bell Sympatico high speed Internet customers also do not have this access but are supposedly paying for it..These simple, clear issue should be resolved even in one day even by Consumer Affairs and not in months, or years..

To Bell Sympatico January 31, 2008

Thank you for your long time awaited response but it was unacceptable one still too. Now deal adequately with my complaint, problem ASAP too.

Real, enforced Consumer protection is needed against the too often lying, crooked Internet service provider’s and their personnel as well..

Bell Sympatico as I have detailed to all now many times, and undeniably too, they have over advertised their capabilities, and are unable to meet most of the customer demands on their services to start of with anyway.Why? Firstly to make more profit, money and also to try to save spending their money installing any more needed high speed lines, because they do not have high speed fibber cable in most of Canada to start off, and high speed is only available what 4.5 km from the center of most Bell centers, in most of major big cities, and for the rest of you, they seem to only pretend only they are giving you high speed on their old, definitely inadequate phone lines.

Please note that any traffic management by you now on any of my Internet downloads is illegal for I do for many years do have a high speed unlimited Internet download contract with you. Any changes to it would require my mutual approval firstly tool. Your latest Internet management techniques have illegal violated your past contract agreement and you have to stop doing that or face a real penalty for not honoring our agree upon original contract by law now too. as far as the P@P usage it is none of your business firstly.. what I do with my computer on the net as well but firstly you u did not reply adequately to me for my Bit torrent software never blocked my email as I had told you before firstly so why do you say it does now supposedly? how would you know that? Rather you are the e one who reduced my email capacity and download speeds illegally now as well firstly. Correct it immediately or else you will face the negative real consequences for breaking falsely my contract with you. Bell even does not do now traffic management on all if it’s commercial customers now too… so do not do it on my services as well.

Internet top Internet service providers (ISPs) have been asked to explain why consumers often don’t get advertised broadband connection speeds too. …

I am awaiting your proper action on this too..

—– Original Message —–

From: “Sympatico Service” <service@sympatico.ca>

Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 5:32 PM

Subject: Re: My stiill bad sympatico service
> You have reached Bell Internet Services, my name is Arun Kumar Singh and
> I appreciate the opportunity to respond.
>
> With reference to your Email,I apologize for any performance issues you are currently experiencing using a specific applications. Bell is committed to deliver the best possible Internet performance, but when you are on the Internet, speeds may vary by application, time of day, or during peak periods when a lot of people are actively using the Internet. I do not support P2P file sharing applications specifically and their speeds may vary due to congestion on the Internet and/or the possible lack of download sources. During busy periods, Bell Sympatico uses Internet Traffic Management to ensure all our customers can access the Internet and experience fair use of all applications.
>
> P2P file-sharing applications provide the ability to share files on-line via an Internet connection between multiple computers that are often unknown to the user. Computers can communicate with each other even if you are not present and engaged in using the computer.
>
> If you are using P2P file sharing, Bell Sympatico recommends that you protect your computer by installing and updating Anti-Virus and Firewallsoftware on a regular basis, as well as enabling Network Address Translation (NAT) on your home gateway/router if so equipped to ensure your computer is not being used by others without your knowledge.?
>
> The only requirements for a computer to join a peer-to-peer network is an Internet connection and P2P software. Common P2P software applications include bitTorrent.
>
> We do prohibit the use of the Service in a way that impedes the use and enjoyment by other customers or creates an unusually large burden on ournetworks. To ensure this does not happen during peak periods we also make our best efforts to deliver fair use of the network to all of our customers. We also continue to invest in the network to meet the growing demands of our customers.
>
> You will not be able to use both the programs simentenously as bittorrent blocks Email and that’s the reason you are unable to get it done.
>
> I trust I have answered your questions.
>
> Thank you for choosing Bell and have a nice day.
>
> Regards,
>
> Arun Kumar Singh
> Electronic Customer Care
> Sympatico Client Services

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Interesting

January 29, 2008 at 4:08 pm (Uncategorized) (Canada, Politics)

In my past Canadian email correspondences I had in the past now openly written these 6 things to the news media, Prime Ministers, federal cabinet, others

1: 2 weeks before Kim Campbell’s defeat as Prime Minister I had written and said that the Liberals would not only win the election, but that the federal progressive Conservative party would cease to exists as a political party in Canada.. and so it happened I was next proven right

2: I had written that contrary to all of the spin doctors in Canada, I had said that the US border would be tightened and not opened more wider, and years later I am still shown to be right

3: I had written that the 2 weeks quarantine period for the SARS diseases was too short and it should be at least 3 weeks..and so it happened I was next proven right

4: Contrary again to all those rosy spin doctors, I had also written and said that the quarantine of cattle in Canada due to mad cow disease would not be a short term period, or quickly resolved too.. and so it happened I was next proven right

5: When the honourable US president George Bush, had come into office I had immiedately written to him that the RCMP overall is a generally bad, poor, unacceptable Police force still in Canada, in spite of all the RCMP spins even to the president and I was proven right here too.

6: I had written that the top RCMP management was very bad, unacceptable, and Conservative MP Jason Kenney had even asked me to stop writign to him about this.. and next I was proven right here too.

* By the way did you know that the subject that I got the most email replies from the legislator in Canada of any that I had emailed? even over the CBC, the bad RCMP and gays.. it was from 22 prominent alcoholic politicians in Canada who had strongly now objected to me stating that no citizens tax Meetings is to be used to buy any alcohol anywhere the government, all alcoholics working for, in the governments should get immediate treatment or be rightfully fired as well, and all alcoholics on social welfare must get go mandatory to an alcoholic anonymous meeting as well, and that the governments should take a real harsher stand against drunk drivers now too.

I had more Professing Christian politicians, persons next objecting to me writing to them and others as well than over any others.

Writing the truth to a news editor that a certain politician was committing adultery, sleeping with a women that was not his wife is a definite sure but ineffective way to get the politician to send the police to your home to falsely denial one’s free speech, right now next ex premier Ernie Ewes of Ontario? .. and also now proving to all that a politician was clearly an alcoholic was a sure way to have him lose his reelection now as well. No matter what their religious preference most citizens do not go along with adulterous persons, and alcoholics still too in Canada.. and not also with just the money abusers, thieves, tax evader, major liars, people slanderers, abusers.

The exampalry Public exposure by the news media and prosecution of the major guilty persons by the government serves adequately for all next too..

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I can say

January 19, 2008 at 2:13 pm (Uncategorized) (Religion, sin)

(John 4:23 KJV) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

I too like many people are aware that there is even corruptions in the Church, the Ministry of God these days as well worldwide too. So what else is new?

(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. 33 I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.

I too like many people are aware that there is even corruption in the Ministry of God these days as well and that too man persons also wrongfully do nothing about it too. They deny the truth of God “Those who sin rebuke before all”.

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

(1 Tim 5:24 KJV) Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

Micah 3:11 – The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money:
yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.

Luke 16:13 – No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon

Luke 16:11 – If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?

2 Corinthians 8:9 – For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

1 Timothy 6:9 – But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

1 Timothy 6:17 – Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

Proverbs 13:7 – There is that maketh himself rich, yet hath nothing: there is that maketh himself poor, yet hath great riches

Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”

Isaiah 8:20 “If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”

Ecclesiastes 12:13 and 15… “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep his commandments: for this is the WHOLE DUTY of man.
For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil”

and yet some persons still next try to wrongfully justify their or others ongoing sins by wrongfully saying

God will complete the good work he has begun (Philippians 1:6)

God is strong in my weakness (2 Corinthians 12:9-10)

Christ keeps me safe, so that the evil one cannot touch me (1 John 5:18)

Two supposed truths I hear people, dispensationalists, ostriches who deny what the Bible rather says often say back to me when confronted with the fact a supposed Christian Bother is doing evil still

a: I know about his or her faults but God is doing a work in him, her and he who started it will finnish it till the day of redemtion..

b: I am no worse certainly than the other bad preachers..

They all still do need to Repent, to do more than jusy trying your best to stop doing the things you shouldn’t be doing. There is also still no such thing as a little bit pregant whn it comes to our continueing to sin.

A verse for all of us to think about.

I John 2:4 and 5 “He that saith, I know him and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”

Any review of the alleged misappropriations of funds even in Churches needs to start by reviewing all of the churches firstly of all denominations now too, and it also would include the circumstances by which the funds were collected, even a Baotist or a Bretheren, Pentecostal church, and a review is neded even of the method of appeal used to collect the money by all of the churches. And these reviews would necessity require full review of the false use of the pressure of “tithing” put upon the givers, contrary to voluntarily, cheerful giving, including a review of any and all preachers stating falsely now that “tithing” itself is still (Biblically )mandatory , applicable commandment by God today even. Even today thesome Pentecostal church falsely insists that to become a member of their church one has to sign an agreement that they would “tithe” to their church. There is no such Biblical requirement in any part of the New Testament as well And thus even here misleading persons with prosperity tithing appeal to pressure people into giving. Next the review needs to look at how the collected tithing money was used directly as well. Firstly it was the priests themselves who were charged with stealing the tithes in the Old Testament book of Malachi. Secondly very clearly in both the Old and especially in the New testament Church Tithing was always clearly, undeniable associated with helping directly the local and distant poor people. (Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. ( But most evangelical chruches do not do so still today, and wrongfully too) Note 1/7 of the tithe was to be given to the local poor people by the priests now too. Too many chrcuhes falsey church itself basically, wrongfully, falsely does not help any poor people today, not even in their own church, or in the city of LaSalle and do note this that both the Trinity Pentecostal church and many others they had falsely justified their immoral approach, their lack of compassion for the poor, and their not fulfilling the clear Biblical obligations of using the tithes to help the poor, sick , needy persons by them both stating that all of the poor and sick persons were sick due to their own personal sins. This also itself is mostly an unacceptable lie, a distortion of reality.

Two of the most despicable false teachings found even elsewhere but especially in the Pentecostal- evangelical circles today included that it is God’s will that we all be financially prosperous, They neglect the conditional part as your soul prosperteth.. and to them how you got it did not matter too, and they had in error now also stated that it was, is a sin to be found poor and/or sick.. but these teachings are despicable because these self centered materistic, Christians should have known better.. and theyalso wrongfuly use poverty, sickness as an excuse to ostracize, kick out falsely the sick and needy, sick persons even from their own churches.. the too often bad pastors often ask the poor and sick people who cannot give to them rather to leave.. God does not overlook any of this wrong doings and he has his own way of punishing such bad persons. We had such bad persons teaching these lies around even at the time of Christ.

I rightfully would rather see a sermon from now being personally practiced over merely preached to others.. I also would rather see you apply the verse before anyone quotes, preaches them to others too.

King David was one of the most anointed prophets because he had such an intimate relationship with God. He was a man after God’s own heart, hearing conversations between the Father and Son. However, he too had a weakness and next fell because he also gave heed to a seducing spirit.He also had the weakness of making bad friends his advisers.Over 55 percent of evangelical pastors have committed adultery now too in North America… and it is no wonder they wrongfully tend to counsel divorce too. In regard to King David. He indeed was a man seeking to put God first in his life but he also personally sinned. The Old Testament King David was also a person occupied often with dealing with his enemies. (Psa 102:8 KJV) “Mine enemies reproach me all the day; and they that are mad against me are sworn against me.” The charismatic personality of David was illustrated by the fact that followers were attracted to him, followers who were willing to fight and die for him even in the dire straits. Some they became the most faithful of David’s followers, providing the closest personal security to King David as his palace guard too, Joab included. But all of his followers were not admirable as the Bible record also shows. King David ever retained and acted upon the knowledge that God was real and near. King David’s life illustrated his faith and obedience to his God. But his followers some of them they acted as the secular men who took no thought that God had any part in their day’s activities but that it was up to him to take action in accordance with their own natural. even sinful uman inclinations. Not only was Joab next guilty of murder, he had also violated the peace initiative arranged by King David. As we study the life of David, we next also do even see that David eventually collaborated in evil doing with Joab, for King David had shown false partiality and he wrongfully did not bring Joab immediately to justice for his act of murder. King David inadequately too merely spoke words of condemnation against Joab saying, “May the Lord repay the evildoer according to his evil”. “ So David reigned over all Israel; and he administered justice and righteousness for all his people. And Joab son of Zeruiah was over the army”. (1st Chronicles 18:14f) Why did David appoint Joab, whom he thought to be an evil man, to be head over the army of Israel? There is no indication that Joab had repented of his evil doing. Was Joab appointed commander simply because David had promised the position to the one who captured Jerusalem? Did the fact that Joab was David’s nephew, the son of David’s sister, make Joab a more desirable candidate? “ It clearly appears that even Kind David had erred in letting worldly men have the influence of close association with him, especially the sons of Zeruiah. “It appears at times that even King David allowed worldly political aspirations to wronfully choke out God’s truths from his consideration. At times his soul smothered his spirit and prevented spiritual communication to and from his God. (Hebrews 4:12) How similar were the spiritual problems of David to problems in our lives today.” How you do it is as important as what you do now as well..

Even God’s favorites can still go to far in their own personal acts. King David also was a person who was quick to condemn the sins of others too he had wrongfully initially had neglected his own too. (2 Sam 12:5 KJV) “And David’s anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: For King David himself had decided that he must get rid of Uriah so he could wrongfully take Bathsheba to wife. He wrote a note to Joab enclosing it in an official message pouch. And he sent the pouch to Joab on the battlefield by the hand of Uriah when Uriah departed back to the battlefield. The note said, “Place Uriah in the front line of the fiercest battle and withdraw from him, so that he may be struck down”. Uriah died in the battle which Joab then put him. Joab when he reported the war with the Ammonites to David he added at the end of his casualty report, “Your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead also.” King David replied, “Do not let this thing displease you, for the sword devours one as well as another; make your battle against the city stronger and overthrow it.” Thus David tried to trivialize the conspiracy and murder. David knew perfectly well that he had initiated a conspiracy with Joab to bring about the death of Uriah. Undoubtedly King David also knew that Joab could be held responsible as a conspirator for the death of Uriah. The scripture clearly says, “But the thing David had done was evil in the sight of the Lord.” (2nd Samuel 11) “It is I who anointed you king over Israel and it is I who delivered you from the hand of Saul. I also gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your care, and I gave you the house of Israel and the house of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would have added to you many more things like these. Why have you despised the word of the Lord by doing evil in his sight? You have struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword, have taken his wife to be your wife, and have killed him with the sword of the sons of Ammon. Now therefore, the sword shall never depart from your house, because you have despised me and have taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your wife. …Behold I will raise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your companion, and he shall be with your wives in broad daylight. Indeed, you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel, and under the sun.” 2nd Samuel 12

Today, while we may heap some justifiable blame even on our leaders, our prime minister, but we must still all also take continual stock of our own lives and activities. Is it possible, or RATHER MORE LIKELY that we too now are somewhere SIMILAR down the road toward sin and do await our own REAL NEGATIVE PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES NEXT TOO? Yes even Idleness, the Investigation of others, gossiping, our Ignoring God’s word, and his warnings to us, they all also can lead to the commission of OUR OWN sin.

(Lev 19:15 KJV) Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

So, our question gets asked again, when God forgives sin, are there no consequences? http://www.joyfulministry.com/davidt.htm We are reminded that King Saul had not learned to deal with,to quickly confess his own sins as well and he paid real negative consequences for them next too. (1 Sam 15:23 KJV) For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

“Sin has consequences and personal effects next on many. He that covers his sin shall not prosper. The way of the transgressor is hard. Sin has effects. Don’t ever kid yourself — sin is never worth it. It is just too dangerous. Wrong patterns of abuse, exploitation and alienation have now too often even divided our own families as surely as the family of King David. “Be kind to one another, tenderhearted forgiving one another, as God in Christ has forgiven you. Be imitators of God and live in love as Christ loved us. Loving only those who are easy to love, or onl those who serve us still however, contradicts the heart of the gospel of Jesus Christ.. Let’s all learn our lessons even from Biblical history too so we won’t need to repeat them. Let’s learn also from King David that though personal forgiveness for sin was, is extended, for many negative consequences still follow those who ddid not stop on the road to sin and did not exercise God’s grace to overcome sins. ” (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.(Heb 12:15 KJV) Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;”Here is a fact I have clearly noticed, in real life the last 50 years as well, too many, most of the people who did the loudest, biggest complaining about the supposedly bad sinful acts of others they themselves were firstly now even doing the very same thing, and that was why they were so sensitive now about such supposed acts in others.

For the record I have already dealt with my sins and errors and set them straight too.

I met Jesus at the crossroads,

(Psa 91:7 KJV) A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

At our chapel Sunday school, we often used to sing this favorite chorus of mine

I met Jesus at the crossroads,
Where the two ways meet,
Satan, too was standing there,
And he said “Come this way
Lots and lots of pleasures,
I will give you today.”
But I said ” NO!!
There’s Jesus here,
Just see what He offers me….
Down here my sins forgiven,
Up there a home in heaven
Praise God, That’s the way for me!!

Even though all the Sunday teachers to there where not perfect we sang some real great choruses there.

“Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mineenemies: thou anointest my head with oil: my cup runneth over” -Psalm 23 vs.5

Running over, running over *
My cup is full and running over*
Since the Lord loves me,
I’m as happy as can be! **
My cup*** is full and* running over.

Rise and Shine
(Sung to Rise and Shine)

CHORUS: (sung between each verse)
Oh, rise and shine and give Him the glory, glory,
Rise and shine and give Him the glory, glory,
Rise and shine and give Him the glory, glory,
Children of the Lord.

You Can’t Get To Heaven

O you can’t get to heaven, (o you can’t get to heaven)
On roller skates, (on roller skates)
O you can’t get to heaven, (o you can’t get to heaven)
on roller ska-a-a-ates.
O you can’t get to heaven on roller skates
you’ll roll right past those pearly gates,
all my sins are washed away, I’ve been redeemed.

O you can’t get to heaven, (echo)
In a big, fine car, (echo)
O you can’t get to heaven (echo)
In a big fine car-a-a-ar.
O you can’t get to heaven in a big, fine car
A big fine car can’t drive that far
all my sins are washed away, I’ve been redeemed.

Old Noah, he built him, he built him an arky, arky,
Noah, he built him, he built him an arky, arky,
Built it out of birchy barky, barky
Children of the Lord.

The animals, they came in, they came in by twosies, twosies,
Animals, they came in, they came in by twosies, twosies,
Elephants and kangaroosies, roosies,
Children of the Lord.

It rained, it rained for forty daysies, daysies,
Rained, it rained for forty daysies, daysies,
Almost drove those children crazy, crazy,
Children of the Lord.

The sun came out and dried up the landy, landy,
Sun came out and dried up the landy, landy,
Everything was fine and dandy, dandy,
Children of the Lord.

When We All Get to Heaven

Sing the wondrous love of Jesus,
Sing His mercy and His grace;
In the mansions bright and blessed
He’ll prepare for us a place.
- Refrain:
  When we all get to heaven,
  What a day of rejoicing that will be!
  When we all see Jesus,
  We’ll sing and shout the victory!
While we walk the pilgrim pathway,
Clouds will overspread the sky;
But when trav’ling days are over,
Not a shadow, not a sigh.
Let us then be true and faithful,
Trusting, serving every day;
Just one glimpse of Him in glory
Will the toils of life repay.
Onward to the prize before us!
Soon His beauty we’ll behold;
Soon the pearly gates will open;
We shall tread the streets of gold.

I’ll Be a Sunbeam

Jesus wants me for a sunbeam,
To shine for Him each day;
In every way try to please Him,
At home, at school, at play.
- Refrain:
  A sunbeam, a sunbeam,
  Jesus wants me for a sunbeam;
  A sunbeam, a sunbeam,
  I’ll be a sunbeam for Him.
Jesus wants me to be loving,
And kind to all I see;
Showing how pleasant and happy,
His little one can be.
I will ask Jesus to help me
To keep my heart from sin;
Ever reflecting His goodness,
And always shine for Him.
I’ll be a sunbeam for Jesus,
I can if I but try;
Serving Him moment by moment,
Then live for Him on high.

Jesus Bids Us Shine

Jesus bids us shine with a clear, pure light,
Like a little candle burning in the night;
In this world of darkness, we must shine,
You in your small corner, and I in mine.
Jesus bids us shine, first of all for Him;
Well He sees and knows it if our light is dim;
He looks down from heaven, sees us shine,
You in your small corner, and I in mine.
Jesus bids us shine, then, for all around,
Many kinds of darkness in this world abound:
Sin, and want, and sorrow—we must shine,
You in your small corner, and I in mine.

Safe in the Arms of Jesus

Safe in the arms of Jesus,
Safe on His gentle breast;
There by His love o’ershaded,
Sweetly my soul shall rest.
Hark! ’tis the voice of angels
Borne in a song to me,
Over the fields of glory,
Over the jasper sea.
- Refrain:
  Safe in the arms of Jesus,
  Safe on His gentle breast;
  There by His love o’ershaded,
  Sweetly my soul shall rest.
Safe in the arms of Jesus,
Safe from corroding care,
Safe from the world’s temptations;
Sin cannot harm me there.
Free from the blight of sorrow,
Free from my doubts and fears;
Only a few more trials,
Only a few more tears!
Jesus, my heart’s dear Refuge,
Jesus has died for me;
Firm on the Rock of Ages
Ever my trust shall be.
Here let me wait with patience,
Wait till the night is o’er;
Wait till I see the morning
Break on the golden shore.

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Bad Canadian Evangelical Churches

January 16, 2008 at 12:00 am (Uncategorized) (Evangelcial churches, Government)

Like I have said before I rightfully do not show false partiality to anyone.

To : The Honourable Prime Minister of Canada Stephen Harper, Leader of the Conservative Party

Subject: The Evangelical churches in Canada – and the poor people in it too.

My more recent posts in more detail to you, provincial premiers, legislative members, members of parliament, the news media and even posted now next on the Internet are clearly about the false pastors, false Evangelical churches in Canada, and yes they are specifically the Evangelical ones, the Christian Missionary Alliance Church too, and the related bad evangelical, Pentecostal churches now too.

Beside too many of the pastors being too often sex maniacs, who commit adultery, wrongfully counsel divorce, one of the most unacceptable sins of these churches has been their switch and bait approach, actually collecting donations, the money under false pretenses, but not actually fully revealing where all the money even goes, and in the process robbing the poor people unacceptable as well.

This is how I rightfully still do see it, the federal government they should stop being hypocritical in their false selective church revenue reviews and review all the income of all of the professing Christians churches, all of the Evangelicals, and the Christian Missionary Alliance church, (C&MA) included. Which is related to the bad Pentecostal churches now too.

As you know I have given the whole world the opportunity to read the truth. I have plenty of time and will to pursue these matters even more too. And I can readily compete with your own very costly marketing groups now too as you know eh…

All these churches I detailed about in Canada claim to believe in, to preach, and practice the Bible as the world of God, but lyingly only. The do basically still steal from the poor people, poorer evangelical poor people. For in fact they do not give 1/7 of the tithe income to the local poor people as commandment by the same bible now too. Nor do they give the poor people in the evangelical churches their portions as designated by the new testament apostles now too. And these are all undeniable facts.

So what are you going to do good rightfully do about it now too? RSVP

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Now It is not the ten commandments that most people, even the religious leaders do practice but rather it is the law of the jungle, the survival of the fittest, grab all you can here on earth and to Hell with everyone else.

- How to woo women’s votes “The Calgary Sun Mon, January 14, 2008 Recent polling by the good people at Ipsos Reid has shown that support for Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservatives has a definite gender gap. Four polls late last year show that support for the federal Conservatives averages 42% among men, but only 33% among women. Pollsters are finding women aren’t embracing the issues that are traditionally near and dear to conservatives. Men feel the economy and military defence are top issues — good muscular issues that allow you to seriously discuss capital loss carryforwards and the relative merits of soft-skinned armour. For women, two of the top issues are the thoughtful and less testosterone-fuelled subjects of education and poverty. In addition, 28% of women think health care is a key issue, but only 18% of men do. I suppose men aren’t as concerned about health care because they figure they have the women in their lives to look after them when they get a case of the sniffles. Women know that if they get sick, they’re pretty much on their own. These of course are the big issues, and political witch doctors are advising Harper to do more to address issues traditionally important by women. He’s probably been told having a photo on his prime minister’s website of him reading to a kitten (I’m not making this up — look for yourself) isn’t going to fool anyone into thinking he’s in touch with his feminine side. Women want to know where he stands on the real issues. For example, where does Harper stand on the issue of refilling ice cube trays? After education, the environment, health care and poverty, refilling the ice cube trays ranks fairly close to the top of the issues polls reveal are important to the woman in my life. A photo op of him putting a full ice cube tray back in the freezer would be good for at least a 5% bump in the polls — 10% if he doesn’t slop water all over the kitchen floor in the process. Where does our prime minister stand on making sure his socks and underwear actually go into the laundry basket and don’t just end up on the carpet on his side of the bed? For that matter, the prime minister owes it to the Canadian people to make clear his position on leaving wet towels on the bathroom floor after a shower. The Conservative government may reject Kyoto as a national policy, but where does it stand on global warming inside 24 Sussex Drive? Nothing will make a man drop in the polls like keeping the thermostat in the house too low. If your spouse is forced to wear a sweater in the winter because the furnace is set too low, and in the summer because the air conditioning is set too high, don’t expect to get a rise out of your approval rating, or anything else for that matter. On the culture side, the next budget should have a hefty increase in funding for the CBC, provided they use the money exclusively for more programs about disasters in decorating, wardrobe makeovers and shows about flipping real estate. That would almost be enough for the female voter in my house to consider switching parties. A fireside chat with Laureen, where she swears that Stephen always replaces the toilet paper roll, would probably be enough to rocket him into a majority. An admission that he doesn’t roll his eyes when she comes home with two jumbo, 36-roll family packs she bought on sale is easily worth back-to-back majorities. Either that or the Conservatives could seriously address issues of real concern to women — such as child care, elder care, social justice and access to opportunities.” http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Lautens_Stephen/2008/01/14/4771607-sun.php

I can fully say that the federal new Conservative platform has been significantly shaped by the values of the (C&MA) itself, especially by the rich people in their Church who do wrongfully now despise the poor persons, even the poor Christian persons, and they do also steal from the poor now too, wrongfully ostrich the poor people.. but the (C&MA) are already known also in finding jobs for their friends which has always been in Canada a false (C&MA) agenda as well. The Christian and Missionary Alliance church, is was strongly allied to the “higher life” , meaning that they are selfishly so heavenly minded that they still tend not to be of any personal earthly good.. and wrongfully they have excluded helping the poor persons in their main doctrines. The poor people tend to be women and the children more often. Even in reference to their many historical preacher’s writings the references to the poor generally are not mentioned, non existent, rare.. and yet the Bible, the New Testament contains tones of references to the subject still too. The main platform of the (C&MA)Jesus as savior, healer, sanctifier, coming king now wrongfully excludes this need to help the poor now too. The (C&MA) is a self made, self centered, unacceptably mostly a male dominated bastion now too http://www.cmalliance.org/whoweare/doctrine.jsp

- The Canadian Liberals new platform on helping the poor people, feminines versus the new Conservative The Canadian federal Liberals new platform on helping the poor people was certainly not the platform of the now ex Liberal PMs Jean Chretien, or Paul Martin who clearly were mainly interested in helping themselves and their friends. So why did it take them so long to indulge now in this real need of helping the poor people in Canada the last 50 years now too? The two latest Liberal spokesmen, Trudeau and Dryden, for poverty to me have no real credibility on the subject too.. Get real!!

There is no such thing still as a little bit pregnant and any significant deviation expounded can next mostly lead to great deviations, errors too.

Believe it or not my having been both an adherent of the very local Christian Missionary Alliance church, (C&MA)for about 8 years, and my having attended, me having got to know personally also the senior pastor of the Calgary First alliance church too, I can fully say that the Conservative platform has been significantly shaped by the values of the CMA itself, esspecially their rich persons who wrongly despise the poor persons, and they do also steal from the poor now too, and wrongfully negelect, ostrich the poor people.. but (C&MA) are already known also in falsely finding jobs solely for their friends which has always been in Canada a false (C&MA) agenda as well..

Helping the poor people seems to have been left mainly to the Catholic church it seems.. Anyone who thinks that the Sally Ann realy helpa the poor and not themselves too should vist their kinky stores where they sell things for profit firstly.

The Christian and Missionary Alliance (C&MA) is an Evangelical Protestant denomination within Christianity. The Christian Missionary Alliance for the most part. is very similar to Baptist with Wesleyan mix. They are Trinitarian They are classed among the “conservative Protestant” churches. “Founded by Rev. Albert Benjamin Simpson in 1887, the Christian & Missionary Alliance did not start off as a denomination, but rather began as two distinct parachurch organizations: The Christian Alliance which focused on the pursuit and promotion of the Higher Christian life and The Evangelical Missionary Alliance, which focused on mobilizing “consecrated” Christians in the work of foreign missionary efforts. These two groups amalgamated in 1897 to form The Christian and Missionary Alliance. It was only much later during the mid twentieth century that an official denomination was formed.” The Christian and Missionary Alliance church, is was strongly allied to the “higher life” , meaning that they are selfishly so heavenly minded that they still tend not to be of any personal earthly good.. and they have wrongfully excluded helping poor persons in their main doctrines. http://www.cmalliance.org/whoweare/doctrine.jsp

Note this undeniably too - The original Apostles had clearly stated that money was to be weekly collected in the local church for the poor people, but historical the Evangelicals next distorted this commandment to mean that this money should be used rather for missionary work, and church empire building, not biblical still too, but the (C&MA) clearly next expounded on this that this also that money should go specially to the support of all of their Christian workers, pastors, too many of whom do try and like to live well off too.. in accordance to the (C&MA) as far as the poor they can help themselves on their own and not on any of the money from the (C&MA)church.. nor are the really welcomed to come to the (C&MA)church now too. sad but true. The clearly established biblical requirement of giving of 1/7 of all the tithe income collected to the local poor has also never been carried out. And as you can see ehe PM Stephen Harper is really not much different from the views of the (C&MA). It is also historical fact that the greatest theologians of the CMA A B Simpson a “ Political libertarian with ties to the Christian Right. … (1843 – 1919) – preacher, writer, and founder of The Christian and Missionary Alliance (C&MA) ” included, or Dr. Andrew Bonar, A. W. Tozer (1897-1963), even in reference to their many writings the references to the poor generally are not mentioned, non existent, rare.. and yet the Bible, the New testament contains tones of references to the subject still too. The main platform of the (C&MA)Jesus as savior, healer, sanctifier, coming king now wrongfully excludes this need to help the poor now too. The (C&MA) is a self made, self centered, mostly a male dominated bastion now too

“During the beginning of the twentieth century, Simpson became closely involved with the growing Pentecostal movement, an offshoot of the Holiness movement. It became common for Pentecostal pastors and missionaries to receive their training at the Missionary Training Institute that Simpson founded. Consequently, Simpson and the C&MA had a great influence on Pentecostalism, in particular the Assemblies of God and the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel. This influence included evangelical emphasis, C&MA doctrine, Simpson’s hymns and books, and the use of the term ‘Gospel Tabernacle,’ which led to many Pentecostal churches being known as ‘Full Gospel Tabernacles.After Simpson’s death in 1919, the C&MA distanced itself from Pentecostalism, rejecting the premise that speaking in tongues necessarily indicates being filled with the Holy Spirit, ‘” The Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada churches a historical direct break away from the Christian and Missionary Alliance (C&MA) wrongfully also tends to despise the poor persons as well. Does the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church also not really are about helping poor people wrongfully too?

The Christian Missionary Alliance church tends to operates in a dictatorial, pyramid structure, and not in the rightfuly New testament plurality of elders, congressional approach. All acys, doctrines are also determined from central point like Roman Catholic faith:” “The General Assembly,” [world headquarters] “is the ultimate authority under God of The Christian and Missionary Alliance in Canada.” (The Manual, Ordination of ministers section, Christian Missionary Alliance church) Understanding the dictatorial approach of the Christian Missionary Alliance church is related also now to their claiming direct Heavenly, godly inspiration to all truths by their leaders.The infallibility of the Pope doctrine too. It also destructive to truth, because individuals in the Christian Missionary Alliance church conclude that all of their faith and doctrine is, must be without error, because the Holy Spirit directly taught it to them. This is also known as the error of “irresistible grace“, one of the tenets of Calvinism. It is false doctrine. So is this Church. ”The Christian Missionary Alliance church is one of the few remaining churches that actually believe in the word for word inspiration of the Bible and that it is error free and as they say in article #4: is “the divine and only rule of Christian faith and practice” (Christian Missionary Alliance Statement of Faith, Article 4). We applaud this rare quality of believing in error free inspiration of the Bible. However the big problem is that what they say and what they do are two different things. Their members, ministers churches and seminaries are required to “pledge allegiance” to the Alliance Creed (Statement of Faith). This means that the creed has precedence over the Bible itself and actually competes with the Bible as a sole standard of authority. As you will plainly see, the Bible is NOT the sole standard of faith, but a human origin creed is.” “ Members required to adhere to creed:”Qualifications for Local Church Membership: (1) A credible testimony of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. (2) A commitment to the principles expressed in the Statement of Faith of The Christian and Missionary Alliance.” (The Manual, Christian Missionary Alliance church) Ministers required to adhere to creed even where it contradicts the Bible:Ordination of ministers: “Only a person who is in genuine agreement with the doctrines and teachings of The Christian and Missionary Alliance, may be approved by The Christian and Missionary Alliance as a minister of the Gospel.” (The Manual, Christian Missionary Alliance church) “A candidate shall state on the provided forms, knowledge of Bible doctrine and acceptance of doctrinal distinctives of The Christian and Missionary Alliance. Willingness to accept the constituted authority of The Christian and Missionary Alliance must also be expressed.” (The Manual, Ordination of ministers section, Christian Missionary Alliance church) Ministers fired if they deviate from church creed even if they learn it teaches things that contradict the Bible:” Expulsion: Where the accused minister has been found guilty of teaching doctrines contrary to the Statement of Faith.” (The Manual, Ordination of ministers section, Christian Missionary Alliance church) Seminaries that ordain ministers are controlled by Headquarters who demand the creed be followed even if it teaches false doctrine:”The doctrinal statement of The Christian and Missionary Alliance in Canada, as found in the General Constitution, will be binding on the colleges and/or seminaries.” (The Manual, Ordination of ministers section, Christian Missionary Alliance church) Local church assets will be seized if they don’t follow the creed:”This church operates in accordance with its Statement of Faith. Should this church cease to be subject to the doctrines and teachings of The Christian and Missionary Alliance, all of its property shall become the property of the district corporation.” (The Manual, Ordination of ministers section, Christian Missionary Alliance church) . “Their creed on how a sinner should be saved is both incomplete and false. “those who repent and believe in Him are born again” (Christian Missionary Alliance Statement of Faith, Article 6) Personally Repent, Belive, accept jesus Christ as your lord and be baptized is what the new testament actually says, commands..The “Articles of Faith” quoted are copyright of the Christian Missionary Alliance church and based upon the General Councils 1965, 1966, 1974, 1995. The “Manual”, Christian Missionary Alliance church is copyright of the Christian Missionary Alliance church.

” One of the snares in Assembly Of God and Christian Missionary Alliance and other denominations is the REVERSION CLAUSE. It is one of the main lynch pins which holds the power of the elite together at the expense of the local church. It should really be called the perversion clause, because it is a license to steal, giving power and authority to the headquarters of these denominations which it should not have in the first place. It gets further compounded (and builds even more absolute power to the elite) when tithing pledges and building fund pledges and covenants snare the members into even more bondage. If a local Church decides it does not want to be C&MA or AOG anymore for promoting false teachers…the reversion clause give the hdqrs absolute sovereignty over the local church, rendering any local sovereignty statements null and void. The reversion clause is nothing more than entitlement syndrome to the C&MA (or AOG) clamoring for something it did not pay for…it is the old Henny Penny Parable whose moral (immoral) theme is: “You do all of the work on the farm and I will take the fruit of all your labors…all of the harvest!” This reminds me of the collective farms in the Soviet Union in which the citizens owned nothing, only the State owned property. But in this case it would be the national C&MA church that owns your property. The reversion clause was originally designed to keep wayward pastors and maverick churches from straying from sound Biblical doctrine and denomination policies and supposed safeguard its members. But it does not protect the local congregation when the national leadership and hierarchy go apostate, rendering the clause a very convenient, but unilateral. Local churches also do make percentage of income payments to the hdqrs and/or send part of tithes and offerings to the headquarters, the reversion clause, it still gives them what is tantamount to a license to steal! ” http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/James/ReversionClauseCMA&AOG.pdf

Prominent bad former (C&MA) members- Interesting

Charles Templeton, post-war evangelist. Subsequently left and became an agnostic.
David Berg (deceased), who left to found the cult the Children of God, now known as The Family International

The Liberals thmselves are in direct Biblical errors, even do now oppose the Catholic church by supporting abortions, women instituted divorce, and allowing the gays and lesbians now too.

PS: It is also interesting to note the ties between the Church of the Nazarene and the Christian and Missionary Alliance. ’” Ambrose University College (AUC) is a private Christian liberal arts college located in Calgary, Alberta. It is the official Canadian school of both the Church of the Nazarene and the Christian and Missionary Alliance. It is one of 10 colleges and universities affiliated with the Church of the Nazarene in North America and one of 8 colleges and universities affiliated with the Christian and Missionary Alliance.^{[citation needed]} In terms of its affiliation with the Nazarene church, AUC (formerly Canadian Nazarene University College) is the college for the Canada Region.^[1]Ambrose University College is the product of similar educational journeys begun in the first half of the twentieth century.^[2]The Calgary Bible Institute was first established in 1921 in the basement of the Calgary First Church of the Nazarene. In 1927, the school relocated to Red Deer, where it became known as Alberta School of Evangelism, and then Northern Bible College (NBC) with the construction of a new campus. In 1940, it was renamed again as Canadian Nazarene College (CNC) as it began offering theology degrees. In 1960, CNC moved to Winnipeg and was established as the official Canadian university college for the Church of the Nazarene.Similarly but independently, the Canadian Bible Institute was founded in 1941. In 1949, it was recognized by Saskatchewan and renamed Western Canadian Bible Institute (WCBI). It was renamed again in 1957 as the Canadian Bible College (CBC) of the Christian and Missionary Alliance (C&MA) and, in the 1960s, became associated with the University of Regina. Canadian Theological College (CTC) was established in 1970 as a graduate sister school to CBC, and was renamed Canadian Theological Seminary (CTS) in 1982.

Dr. Riley Coulter, President of CNC, determined that Manitoba would not accredit private institutions of higher education in the liberal arts and sciences. CNC thus moved back to its first home, Calgary, in 1995, became an accredited university college in 1999, and changed its name to Nazarene University College (NUC). Dr. George Durance, President of CBC/CTS, came to similar realizations regarding the accreditation status of his school in Saskatchewan and, in 2000, CBC/CTS made a similar decision. In 2003, CBC/CTS officially relocated to join NUC on the same campus, received accreditation in 2004, and changed its name to Alliance University College (AUC). AUC and NUC maintained a close relationship and were often referred to as Alliance University College-Nazarene University College (AUC-NUC), though the two granted degrees independently until 2007.

In 2007 Alliance University College and Nazarene University College became a single entity, known as Ambrose University College, in honour of Ambrose.^[3] Ambrose is building a new campus in west Calgary. The project began in April 2007 and the new campus is expected be ready in September 2008 “

“For all intents and purposes, the basic doctrines of the Alliance and Nazarene denominations are identical. Their central doctrine of “entire sanctification” is based upon John Wesley’s “Christian Perfection”–a “perfection” that is adjusted down to a level they feel can be attained. This ploy is characteristic of all “holiness,” experience-centered movements.” http://withchrist.org/MJS/cma.htm

The Department of National Defence of all things needs to rewrite their page http://www.dnd.ca/hr/religions/engraph/religions07_e.asp about the Christian and Missionary Alliance chruch in Canada

>>In theory “The Christian and Missionary Alliance opposes marriage of members to non-Christians. The Church opposes divorce except in cases of adultery and cases where a non-Christian spouse leaves the marriage. Remarriage is permissible for members formerly married to non-Christians and for the aggrieved spouses in cases of divorce on the grounds of adultery.” Alliance pastors have wrongfully been known to wrongfully break up marriages at their own whims when they designate one person as a non believer (Or supposedly insane).

I have personaly witnessed 2 Alliance (C&MA) pastors being guilty of this in Canada of the Calgary First Alliance Church, and you do not think they got away with it too? Their unacceptable sins are posted for all to read..

Living 15 years in Calgary Alberta has let me to concluded that some of the biggest human rights violators are even the professing Calgary Christians evangelicals and Catholics now included who as ostriches do deny others the right to be heard, to speak as well..

Also the people who like to make and/ or to enforce rules, relgious persons and even the cops, lawyers, judges now included, they too often do not keep them themselves.. The Evangelicals and their pastors especially it seems, sadly most evangelicals are known not only to be intolerant of others, do tend to deny them the right to speak and to be heard, but they also tend to fail to practice firstly what they like to preach to the others. Truly Lip service Christianity is what the Evangelicals tend to be best at in Calgary too.

I WOULD RIGHTFULLY SEE THEM PRACTICE CHRISTIANITY THAN BE ANOTHER HYPOCRITE WHO MERELY PREACHES IT AND WRONGFULLY ASKS FOR MONEY FOR DOING SO AS WELL..

A more accurate estimate was, is that 15 percent of the catholic priests in North America have been gays, and at least 55 percent of evangelical pastors have committed adultery, have been divorced or counseled divorce? So what group is now more spiritual the 20 percent gay Catholics priests or the 55 percent Protestant adulterous pastors? So how come no one loudly protests about the high amount of Adulterous pastors? Kinda of hypocritical is it not? or sexist?

“Men feel the economy and military defense are top issues” – and the women tend to be more spiritually, church inclined.. and thus tend to significantly live longer over men too,.

The Department of National Defence of all things needs to rewrite their page http://www.dnd.ca/hr/religions/engraph/religions07_e.asp about the Christian and Missionary Alliance chruch in Canada

but firstly what is the Canadian federal department of defense doing having even now an interent page on religion, churches? RSVP

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January 7, 2008 at 4:54 pm (Uncategorized) (Canada, me, Religion)

If I could put my whole life on one page I would say..

My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isa. 55:8, 9

I remember that I was once young, well really not that young I was 35 years old, compared to me being over 60 now, and now nothing I had tried I was able to do fully successfully or consistently next.. even though I had graduated from university with a civil engineering degree. I was thus really concerned about my own future career, my future incomes, my future employment.. and in real desperation I next turned directly to God in prayer, and I asked him to clearly talk to me about all of this. God next had told me to go out in the open country, to a specific place, to site and to sit quietly before him, and next to praise him.. and then I heard God speak in a still small inner voice to me and he told me what he had planned for my life.. it was not specifically at all what I had even imagined.. and there when I next asked God about my finances.. he told me it was none of my business, for God would supply my needs his way.. and Isa. 55:8, 9 was one of the many verses God had given to me to meditate on at that time too.

If I could put my whole life on one page I would say that God does knows what he is going to do with our life beforehand, and he has put in some of our natural desires to do His will. Since I was a teenager I have loved to become a news reporter, to write to others, and I have loved to paint natural scenery. Well God used both of these talents in my blogs, web sites, emailing and also in my many Bible versed wallpaper sites. I have also learned we all need to have our own work, and we cannot rely upon others and their works. Canadatoday Canadatoday2 Canadatoday5 http://pbulow.tripod.com

The First rule of healthy living that we all should know is that still we all do reap what we sow here too, and so do not to skip any main meals, especially breakfast or other meals.. skipping a meal will cause one’s sugar levels to rise with very negative side effects eventually too..also we all do need to eat regularly, light meals and also do regularly have light snacks between meals.. such as a fruit.. and my dietitians recommend only all light meals for all of us and me, half of my normal portions, and for breakfast I have one toast only and for energy add either cheese or peanut butter or with 2 eggs. Note Eating too much bread or pastas, eventually does convert this food to one’s unbeneficial high sugar levels.. We have to cut out on salt, I replace it with pepper and spices.. for Salt causes the increase of fluid retention in the blood, and the more excess fluids you have in the blood next the harder it is for the heart to pump the blood, which eventually will lead to wear and tear reduction of the heart’s pumping capacity too. I was surprised that all of my dietitians and doctors do recommend that we all also do reduce our daily red meat consumption ( since read meat has high fat and it is very difficult to digest too) by 1/2 or 3/4 and instead that we do double our fresh vegetable consumption instead. More vegetables does not increase your weight.. is good for you.. If you double your fresh or frozen vegetable consumption with every meal it will cause one’s daily sugar levels to be reduced in half. Note the Canned foods, canned vegetables tend to have too much bad salt. Eating boiled or steamed foods over fried foods is recommended because they are easier to digest.. the easier it is in the stomach to digest food, the leas chance of heart, cancer problems next..Needles to say you also have to almost eliminate also drinking too all fruit juices which in fact all do tend have a high sugar level.. a limit to half a glass a day.. for did you know that one quart of orange juice has as much sugar as two quarts of Coca-Cola or Pepsi soft drink? Also both tea and coffee cause dehydration of water in the body which does not help next with one’s continual digestion of foods.. herbal teas some to be OK, and water.. still we should not really drink more than 2 liters a day.. My dietitian wants me to eat fish 3 times a week at least too. We all do need a minimum of 20 minutes walking exercise per day as well.. I am more convinced than ever that both unresolved stress in one’s life, and very bad eating habits, lead to, next are the main causes of cancer, heart attacks, diabetes.. I with definitely certainty say as well that one of the main reasons for cancer, heart attacks, diabetes is directly mostly, firstly related to the type of food consumption and do note this most people do not know how to eat properly.. plus how one handles unresolved stress in one life. Bad friends, bad family members, bad acquaintances do cause us much unneeded personal stress too that harms our health too. Take a second real look at what you eat and who your friends are. Most people also do not even know how to eat proper foods, even professionals included.. thus next a lot of people do have related health problems..Sadly most peopled do not realize the main causes of Heart attacks, diabetes, cancers. You can start by looking at the type of food you eat. I made a study for years of the reasons many people get heart attacks .. it is often a family disease, meaning related family bad habits.. such as the lack of physical exercise, how one handles the stressful situations, how well you sleep included.. and the type of food eaten and how it is prepared… steamed food and plenty of vegetables are advisable and often thus too.. and also don’t forget about the teeth and gum diseases.. The quality of sleep is more important than the Quantity too. Heart stress and food digestion are also related, related even to cancer, having heart attacks now as well. Jesus will do his part, heal us after we do our part first. The road to recovery is also a long term healing, and not an instantaneous healing. God had also told me that he would do next for me what the Doctors could not do first. God still works through doctors and does not now spoil us with miracles always. http://groups.msn.com/CanadaToday5/heartattackscancer.msnw My own health was seriously critical to a point that God had spoken to me and said “I let you live cause you had served me”. The long decade, the road of my own health recovery with surgeries, medications, many Hospital, doctor’s visits was not something I had looked forward too.. but that was God’s route. God had also changed my eating diet.

As I think about God’s many past answers to my prayers in my life that God has given me and it was still mostly what I needed, need and not necessarily what I had desired, wanted.. Jesus had himself said that if you go forward with Christ then your enemies will be even from your own family, and he did not say may be but rather they will. My personal experiences that last 50 years even that many of the Christians I have known have next deliberately gone back into the world, and not forward as well, by their own free will choice, The Bible itself indicates that notable believer’s their own wives had not been fully faithful to God next.. including Lot’s, Kind David’s wife, Samson’s wife. Sad but true. Also in my life some of the most dreaded, and things that happened to me next these same things brought blessings upon me.. It is not easy to go through a trial as Job also found out, but we know that all things do still work for the good for those who love God.. praise the Lord. We all seem to eventually face the same hardships, trials in life sooner or later, no one really goes through life without significant problems, trials, no one… and money not only does not buy happiness, rebuke the devil, it does not even buy our good health.. God alone provide these things. Many people also do even die early in life, of heart attacks, cancer, accidents… and I also know that for sure, for I have seen a lot of people die around me, even with unresolved heart problems.. but God had said to me he had not only provided healing for me but he had let me live cause I had served him…. and there are many different ways we can serve God now as well.. We are too often led by the devil especially to believe and to follow the false myth that we need to work hard, to have a good job, even to get rich, to also to have material things we are lead to believe we must have , and not to be poor and to be happy as well.. many years ago I had not been working for a while, I had been laid off, and I too really did not appreciate being poor.. when unexpectedly I got a job that was even paying me 50 dollars per hour.. I was for a short period earning about 2000 dollars per week.. after a few weeks I still was wondering why things were not happening for me, why I was still so very unhappy.. when God spoke to me and said.. “without me you can do nothing”, for you cannot be happy without God, you can succeed in life without God. On top of that I had also realized that no amount of money will stop the devil from harassing, abusing us as well. Only God himself could put a stop to this too. With God all things are possible, and without God nothing is really possible..

With adequate food and clothing now do remain content! I am always sorry when someone is poor for clearly the devil is oppressing him… but as I said that having money is only a very temporary happiness, for the devil is still always there with his dirty tactics.. and money and the things it does buy really does not make us happy alone.. but it is always still a great feeling to have more rather than not enough… in my life most of the significant items I came to possess tend to be anyway in my times of absolute poverty and they came by my claiming the promises of God’s word’s, but these same items did not last forever as well… one thing that seems to help is to forgive others, our enemies, them God sends blessings upon us for our good acts..

(Mat 6:33 KJV) But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

(Mat 6:34 KJV) Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

(Mat 7:1 KJV) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

(Mat 7:2 KJV) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

(Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

(Mat 7:4 KJV) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

(Mat 7:5 KJV) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

(Mark 10:24 KJV) And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high-minded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

(Mat 5:44 KJV) But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Today, while we may heap some justifiable blame even on our leaders, our prime minister, or our president, but we must still all also take continual stock of our own lives and activities. Is it possible, or RATHER MORE LIKELY that we too now are somewhere SIMILAR down the road toward sin and do await our own REAL NEGATIVE PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES NEXT TOO? Yes even Idleness, the Investigation of others, our Ignoring God’s word, and his warnings to us, they all also can lead to the commission of OUR OWN sin. Instead bashing others is still too common of an approach.

The first of many basic lessons that even Moses also had to learn…

The Lord thy God bare thee, as a man doth bear his son, in all the way that ye went, until ye came into this place. Deut. 1:31

I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought YOU unto myself. Exo. 19:4

In fact most professing Christians tend not to have still learned to even do this, for in their acts they are still trying to please mere men, even self, family members, friends, pastors, elders or politicians, or whatever..

And we all do need to stop caring about, doing what the other people are telling us to do and instead we need only to solely please God and to do what God tell us to do.

Here is what God also told me here, that if you do listen to all of the voices all around you, to the suggestions of men, the others.. they will all drive you to insanity…

So do learn to recognize only God’s voice and learn to do only what he tells you too. Check it out twice, pray about it too.

There remaineth yet very much land to be possessed. Josh. 13:1

(3 John 1:2 KJV) Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.Funny many preachers still do leave out the second part.. as thy soul prosperity.. especially the dishonest preachers..

In reality the prosperity gospel has caused many unnecessary Christian fights, divisions in North America, and it tends to be falsely self centered oriented misleading many Christians, and it is preached by both non charismatic and charismatic professing Christian churches.. sadly it seems to be too often an excuse to despise poor people, and/or an excuse for one to pursue materialistic goals. It is clearly anti biblical.

The ongoing false wars between the professing Christian pastors and others firstly. Two of the most despicable false teachings found even elsewhere but especially in the Pentecostal- evangelical circles today included that it is God’s will that we all be financially prosperous, how you got it may not matter? and that is a sin to be found poor and/or sick.. these teachings are despicable because these self centered Christians should have known better.. and they use poverty, sickness as an excuse to ostracize, kick out falsely the sick and needy, sick persons even from their own churches.. the too often bad pastors often ask the poor and sick people who cannot give to them rather to leave.. God does not overlook any of this wrong doings and he has his own way of punishing such bad persons. We had such bad persons teaching these lies around even at the time of Christ

Any review of the alleged misappropriations of donated funds needs to start by reviewing all of the Christian churches firstly of all denominations now too, and it also would include the circumstances by which the funds were collected, the method of appeal used to collect the money by all of the churches. And these reviews would necessity require full review of the false use of the pressure of “tithing” put upon the givers, contrary to voluntarily, cheerful giving, including a review of any and all preachers stating falsely now that “tithing” itself is still (Biblically )mandatory , applicable commandment by God today even. And thus even here misleading persons with prosperity tithing appeal to pressure people into giving. Next the review needs to look at how the collected tithing money was used directly as well. Firstly it was the priests themselves who were charged with stealing the tithes in the Old Testament book of Malachi. Secondly very clearly in both the Old and especially in the New testament Church tithing was always clearly, undeniable associated with helping directly the local and distant poor people. (Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. ( But most evangelical churches do not do so still today, and wrongfully too)

Too many churches they wrongfully tended to never use the clearly designated Biblical) portion by the Old Testament of 1/7 to give it directly to the local poor persons for their needs.for they are all part of “the rich who persecute the poor people” club that prevails in many churches falsely today.. Even today some churches falsely insists that to become a member of their church one has to sign an agreement that they would “tithe” to their church. There is no such Biblical requirement in any part of the New Testament as well. Also if many others also paid their full taxes and not committed tax evasion their would b e also more money for the government s to help the poor and needy persons now too. Too many prosperity preachers, churches tend to blame falsely the poor or sick persons as being lazy, pretending their sickness as I heard myself often too and basically, wrongfully, falsely does not help any poor people today, not even in their own church, or in the city plus they had falsely justified their immoral approach, their lack of compassion for others, their not fulfilling the clear Biblical obligations of using the tithes to help the poor, sick , needy persons by them both stating that all of the poor and sick persons were sick due to their own personal sins. This itself is mostly an unacceptable lie, a distortion of reality.

It is also mainly the sex maniacs evangelical pastors who counsel divorce, for as clearly stated in the Bible still God, and Jesus oppose divorce too between Christians, and they also do oppose sex outside of the marriage of a man and a women,

None of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. Rom. 14:7Whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s. Rom. 14:8Let no man seek his own: but every man another’s wealth. I Cor. 10:24Ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s. I Cor. 6:20

Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death. For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better. Phil. 1:20-23

I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Gal. 2:19, 20

Me I do not show false partiality to anyone,

(Phil 3:18 KJV) (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

(Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholds the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how wilt the say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5 The hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt the see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

“So even a leader should always be careful about the kind of mud he throws because it has a nasty way of coming back. “

For me one of the most acceptable Christian Denomination in Canada is, was “The Latter Rain Movement, had its beginnings in the years following World War II. It was contemporary with the evangelical awakening which was starting with Billy Graham at the forefront, as well as the Healing Revival with Oral Roberts, Jack Coe, and William Branham at the forefront. Although William Branham was never a part of the Latter Rain as such, he was revered by its leaders. It had in fact been a Branham meeting which triggered the start of the Latter Rain. Several Pentecostal leaders of a small orphanage outside of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, after visiting the meeting got a vision for a different dimension of Christianity and began to fast and pray in search of it. Later that year, revival events occurred. News quickly swept across Canada and the United States, influencing many Pentecostal believers. Because of its grassroots and unstructured nature, history may never know the breadth of its influence. As the revival itself died down after a few years, those who had been changed by the doctrine formed various groups which came to become known as “The Latter Rain (Movement)”.” Unfortunately there have been even false leaders this group as well..

“50% of Sermons Are Not Biblical http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/archives/2006/02/_50_of_modern_s.php ”Preaching the Gospel is not acceptable to living it. All pastors still do need to read the Bible for one hour a day at least, and pray for one hour a day at least. Almost 80 % of them do not. At least 50 percent of Church and TV, Internet sermons thus are unbiblical because most pastors do not use or read the Bible itself. Great, big Church pastors even steal their sermons from others as I have witnessed firsthand too. I interviewed personally 45 evangelical pastors in one city, Calgary Alberta, and none of them even used the Bible in their counseling ministry with their members and adherents. We have too many impostors, hirelings in the Ministry, bad persons not directly called by God to minister and that is why they also do cheat, lie, steal, commit adultery, tax evasions and abuse others, slander as well. ”" The way I see it still ..It is also always interesting to me that while many of the evangelicals in Canada they preach God’s love, they next too many of them they tend to still practice both divorce and also the false ostracizing of others, especially the people who do not go along with them, and they even wrongfully do try to deny others wrongfully their rights too, the right to be heard…. Unacceptable. I rightfully do not show false partialities to any person, office, organization, denomination, leader, individual, groups etc.., “ Secondly there are the unacceptable bullies, people abusers, AND YOU EASILY can find them on the net, in politics, police stations, city halls, and in our churches as well, those dictatorial persons who are control freaks and so they abuse everyone, men , women, children as well who try to shout down any of their opponents, and next will even wickedly, violently abuse anyone by any means who still stands in their way. I unexpectedly encountered one on the net last week who still wrongfully likes spreading hatred towards Pentecostals and their supporters…” Those Immoral persons who cannot honestly deal with the truths, facts presented resort wrongfully to bullying, lying, slandering you next do still need to repent .. Their acts are, were all Unacceptable and you can say I said so too..”"Anyone familiar with basic North American Christianity can see firsthand how too many of the Plymouth Brethren, evangelical Fundamentals, Baptists too often spread their lies, hatreds towards the Pentecostal as well even on the Internet. They too should be investigated, prosecuted as well.” “In the last 3 decades in Canada over 50 percent of the Canadian Evangelical pastors I had encountered, dealt with were basically crooked.. I witnessed them stealing funds, attempting adultery, a Plymouth Brethren pastor reading pornography, pastors abusing their flocks. And I have already helped to close one church, exposed many others bad pastors too, plus I also have removed two founding bad pastors from their own churches as well. I interviewed about 45 evangelical pastors face to face in the city of Calgary and almost none of them used the Bible in marriage counseling too.” http://thenonconformer.blogspot.com/

The pen is mightier than the sword, if use rightfully and writing email letters is one of the most effective weapons, but it needs to be refined One of the best ways to get results in Canada is to write an email letter to the Prime Minister Stephen Harper pm@pm.gc.ca and simply indicating your objection, complaint with your name, and address, telephone number plus sending at least 5 copies to the news media… so they all next can call and talk to you about this next if they desire to do so.. and now the government sees how serious you are and it does takes your complaint more seriously..

My views on Canadian Politics. For decades I have been writing to news editors, politicians about important issues… and every once a while there come at different peaks significant writings that do have historical effect.. such as this one.. that affected both Ralph Klein’s and Paul Martin’s political career. Can you really believe as the truth what most of these too many still too alcoholic politicians say to us these days too??”"Not only is any cheating, lying, stealing, tax payer’s money abuses is unacceptable also for any civil, public servant, elected representatives, not even for one of them, and no matter what political party they may support too, it is also always inappropriate, unethical, immoral to use one cent of the taxpayer’s money on booze, alcohol as well at any time and anywhere now too.Since we normal persons already tend to know the negative effect of Alcoholism.. Let me be also very clear about it too, I am rightfully against any brain damaged or not alcoholics having any position, job in governments, the civil, public services, rather they should all be fired immediately rather and that includes any Prime Minister, Premier, Member of Parliament or their staff members This may be the season for some to be jolly with booze, drugs but keep it all, all out of politics, the governments.Clearly there is the public disgust for both Prime Ministers , the Conservative Brian Mulroney and Liberal PM Paul Martin and it was also definitely related to their alcoholism, which had destroyed their sensitivity to needs of others.. like it did also for premier Ralph Klein too.. thus the public really despises the deeds, the placement of the alcoholics in the government, into political office.. not one cent of tax payer’s money should be used for any alcoholic entertainment, expenses by an civil or public servant, politicians, and all the Alcoholics in the government, civil and public services who refused treatment should be fired immediately. Fire all the drunks, alcoholics, tax payer money abusers in the government firstly too. There are also plenty of places to try to save the tax payer’s money but starting to save the tax payer’s money at the expense of the poor people and their welfare programs is not the best way to do this, not at all the way to do it! The governments firstly should though clearly manage better it’s civil and public servants..and the capital expenditures. Why? Well I do also know from real experiences that it is also the services to the poor and needy persons, those who can afford it the least, that are wrongfully cut to make up for the past budget mismanagement by Ministers, managers of the civil and public servants too in Canada’s Provinces, Municipalities too.We all need to care about the unemployed and the poor people, Elected officials now included. It also seems even the governments and it’s managers are too often rather still just for sale to the highest bidder… and it doesn’t care who they are involved with or what they are up to or what it looks like as long as they are rewarding themselves or their friends, and thus they wrongfully and too tend not too really look after all of the good ordinary citizens welfare.. this is still never acceptable. They all Civil and public servants, politicians, need to be regularly supervised too. That is why we need and have the auditors, News media, Opposition parties, concerned citizens to do this too.. and it still generally is not enough as we can see.The fish stinks from the head but many cut the tail of first.. That seems how the governments wrongfully does respond to money and the poor people too now rather than firstly with the major crooks, the real tax abusers too.. “ Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.(Galatians 2:10 KJV) ” It should be very clear to the honest New Testament Bible scholars that the Church of the New Testament was seriously concerned about the poor persons in their midst and helped them, and so should we all as well today, but even many Evangelical churches in Canada wrongfully also still do not..

(James 2:1 KJV) My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8 If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. 13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath showed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works. “Let Him without guilt cast the first stone.” ” and go and sin no more lest a worse thing befall you too”"

(James 1:19 KJV) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. 21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

It is amazing how even most of our elected Members of our political legislatures clearly still cannot agree on what their own duties, functions now even are, should be .. all while them mostly l;ip service claiming to be here to service all of the people. Many they would like to add the note “as well”, because too many rather firstly, solely are self serving Ministers who they do wrongfully still do think they are there to get rich, to still make themselves more important, to advance themselves, their own incomes, pensions, to look after clearly firstly themselves. But the word “Minister” means to serve others not oneself, and it certainly does not mean to be Ministered too.. as even the honorable Prime should know…and rightfully I also do wish some of his colleagues would understanding of what it means to be a servant leader. The Minister who had even said she believes in a democratic government, also clearly too often does not even believe in the same thing I do, for apparently she thinks that democracy means now she can now do whatever she wants, all without any personal restraints, even getting drunk at work at the taxpayer’s expense, her having no inhibitions whereas democracy to me means accountability, transparency, mutual submission, equal rights, all done in love thus being able to freely and full serve the good welfare of all others> Democracy has mutual positive restraints for the good welfare of others now as well. The False Buck passing. still goes on too often these days too in the civil and public services, governments, it is even wrongfully used by too many of the elected representatives, and that is why our writing to the News media, the opposition party too, is required now as well., so we can all know about the wrongs being done and deal effectively with them now too. Now I personally have dealt with too many bad federal cabinet Ministers, provincial ones too, on behalf of all Canadians, and how one of them next treats me is really how one generally treats the other citizens of Canada as well. For the most part the self serving persons in politics in Canada are still really not acceptable. Politicians are paid by the tax payers to look after the good welfare of all citizens and sadly this has not been the case the last 20 years even in the federal cabinet. It should be still the case.

(Jer 3:13 KJV) Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the LORD thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the LORD.well.(Prov 29:16 KJV) When the wicked are multiplied, transgression increaseth: but the righteous shall see their fall. (Eccl 3:17 KJV) God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.

Kindly please do note this fact that all MPs, MLAs, all Ministers even have to get used too.. I and every citizen in Canada can write a letter, email it too freely to any of the supposedly even big shots, the Premiers, Members of the legislatures, Members of Parliament, News editors- reporters, using mine and our free speech in Canada because now this is a right of all, each and every Citizen under the Canadian Charter. Now why is it any of the bad guys do not like me to use this right and even send the police falsely to my home to try to stop it six times so far too? cause they are bad. Next the same Bad guys trying to persecute, slander the rightful accuser, complainer is also a something very old, not new acts but still unacceptable. Anyway still someone has to be a whistle blower too.

My view on World Politics..Thursday, August 10 , 2006, 9:30 (BST) A Christian Aid partner in Lebanon has been forced to close the nursery it runs for Palestinian refugees after an Israeli missile attack on Tuesday night. Israeli’s military shelled Lebanon’s largest Palestinian refugee camp, the Ein el-Hilweh camp on the outskirts of Sidon, in the early hours of Wednesday morning, leaving at least one person dead. Ein el-Hilweh is the largest of Lebanon’s 12 Palestinian refugee camps, housing around 75,000 Palestinian refugees and their descendants who were left homeless by the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. Kadija Abdelal works for Christian Aid partner Najdeh, an organisation that supports Palestinian refugees in Lebanon. He said staff and residents in the camp were afraid it would be the target of Israeli bombing again. “We have a kindergarten here for 83 children and today we were going to open it up and welcome more children from Lebanese families who have run from the fighting further south and who are also now staying at this camp,” said Ms Abdelal. “But the kindergarten is near where the missile struck and it has been damaged. So we have closed it.” She added that around 25 families who had come to escape from fighting further in the south had run away. “No one knows where they have gone,” she said. According to media reports, the Ein el-Hilweh camp has been the scene of years of bombings, assassinations and shootings as rival factions in the camp vie for control. It is also believed to be a haven for fugitives wanted by Lebanese authorities and militant groups. Some 350,000 Palestinians live in refugee camps in Lebanon that have developed into large shanty towns over the years. Israeli troops seized the Christian towns of Marjayoun and Qlaiah in south Lebanon on Thursday, according to witnesses, despite assurances from Israel that it has held off plans to expand its offensive against Hezbollah guerrillas. Maria Mackay mmackay@christiantoday.com ” “Israel requested a rush shipment of short-range antipersonnel rockets from the U.S.The new missiles carry hundreds of small grenade-like bombs that scatter over a wide area. The request was reported to soon be approved by the U.S. State Department”

You are not to be congratulated Stephen Harper, George Bush, Tony Blair for all of this as well even for wrongfully now letting Israel attack the Christians areas of Lebanon as well. Dream on if you think this was endorsed by God himself. Now God himself had caused the Jews to be expelled from Israel under the Romans as well. Jesus predicted it too. Mat 21:19 KJV) “And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away” So have other prophets. (Jer 29:28 KJV) “For therefore he sent unto us in Babylon, saying, This captivity is long: build ye houses, and dwell in them; and plant gardens, and eat the fruit of them.” What we all need to know about the Nation Of Israel today and the Arabs. (Psalm 133:1 KJV) Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity! (Mat 5:43 KJV)Jews and Arabs have common ancestry. Both do trace back to the Biblical family leader Abraham. Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. Isaac also had two sons, Esau and Jacob Jews today live in nearly every nation on earth as a result of their first Babylonian captivity and next due to the Roman expulsion. And there is absolutely not one New Testament verse, justification for “Zionism”, the Jews now returning to their ancient homeland, this same Zionist movement that eventually resulted in the re-establishment of a nation of Israel in 1948. Neither Jesus or any of the Apostles of Jesus, had ever promised, or discussed, confirmed the re- establishment of the Nation of Israel in fact. in reality. There will be no peace for or in Israel until the Jesus the Messiah, the Prince of Peace is accepted by the Jews.. (Mat 23:38 KJV) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Hey it is also an unacceptable fact that the Municipal and provincial governments are not better run, managed too. No amount of taxpayers money abuse is acceptable too. Now on top of that here is a common unacceptable perversity too. The majority of accidents, over 60 percent are not related to speeding. and yet the police sue most of their resources, the bad RCMP included to catch the revenue generating speeding tickets and not the bad drivers, the alcoholics. How stupid can they the Ministers now get.. do first look at the police budget.. Do you want to save money? Do lay off 30 percent of the cops.. and save million dollars per year.. if these cops are here just to collect speeding tickets and not to catch the real bad guys than merely rightfully do get rid of them.. speeding is not the main factor in accidents firstly.. but impaired, drunk drivers, road rage are.. and next rightfully also lay off all those people at city hall who are used to the “unacceptable culture of corruption and entitlement”. cut in half their expense accounts, and do firstly cut off all of the out of town trips too.

Here is another truth that should have been dealt with a decade ago by the governments, governess too. Bell Sympatico’s poor Internet speeds, false, misleading adverting.. “Anyone can deliver the Internet. Only Bell brings you Total Internet. New Sympatico Total Internet service from Bell gives you everything you need for a complete Internet experience, including: Consistently fast access that’s never shared 2 Consistently fast access that’s never shared Your Internet access is yours alone, so you’ll enjoy consistently fast speed, without frustrating slowdowns, even during peak hours. We have one of the largest fibre optic networks in Canada, and we continue to bring this leading-edge technology to even more homes, improving your Internet experience.” http://www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpPromo_Int_Total.page? I have paid for and rightfully expected as promised a steady reliable high speed Internet system since 2001 but I have not received it for most of the time. I got the opposite.”Part of the problem that the Sympatico division is having, is that it appears to have over estimated the distance over which its network can operate effectively. Company policy states that high-speed service only operates effectively for clients that are located within four and a half kilometers from a Bell central office. But according to one Bell employee, many customers that are close to, but not over, the distance limit are experiencing slow downloads speeds and difficulty logging on at peak periods. So why is Sympatico selling the service, when it can’t deliver? “ peter@peterdiekmeyer.com ”We have one of the largest fibre optic networks in Canada”, is also misleading because 90 percent of Canada’s geographical area cannot have this access, and that means that at least 50 percent of Bell Sympatico high speed Internet customers also do not have this access but are supposedly paying for it..These simple, clear issue should be resolved even in one day even by Consumer Affairs and not in months, or years..

As I have gotten older I have reflected often on my past life and I have clearly noticed that the devil is still alive and well the last 50 years and he still tends to even use the same method of operations all this time too.(2 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.(Heb 12:3 KJV) For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.- I was shocked to read Christian articles saying that the devil cannot read our thoughts, mind, for this is certainly not true, in fact our mind is one of the major battle fields of the devil, a vital place he the devil loves to place his lying, perverted thoughts into, and next try to make this to me to think them to be my own thoughts.

- Secondly movies, television and radio or also the devils’ favorite weapons..here the devil likes to play as a spin doctor and try to lower our moral, spiritual values as well.

- On top of that I have already clearly mentioned that bad people cause us unnecessary stress and unresolved this can lead to health problems. About ten years ago I made a choice not to communicate with any of my past bad friends, and I have been next happy to have done this. But what surprised me was how often the devil tried to use the telephone the last ten years to harass me. Bad people who no longer visited me would try to disturb me on the phone and weekly. Most of the harassment I have gotten from the devil almost weekly come from the phone, sometimes I get about 26 unwanted and unsolicited phone calls per week. I have often rightfully said that if the devil cannot influence us directly he will try to use another person to do this. Even the phone now too.

(Isa 30:21 KJV) And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

(James 4:7 KJV) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

(Prov 4:14 KJV) Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men.

(Prov 24:1 KJV) Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them.

(Prov 24:19 KJV) Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked;

(2 Tim 3:13 KJV) But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

(Deu 6:14 KJV) Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;

(2 Cor 4:17 KJV) For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. (2 Cor 5:1 KJV) For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

(Heb 13:20 KJV) Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is well pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Prov 16:25 KJV) There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

(2 Cor 1:4 KJV) Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.And meanwhile we know that all things work for the good for those who love God, but no man can serve two masters for he will over one and despise the other as well.

(Luke 22:42 KJV) Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

(Amos 5:14 KJV) Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. 15 Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

(Isa 53:5 KJV) But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

(2 Cor 5:10 KJV) For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

(Mat 10:36 KJV) And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

(Prov 25:19 KJV) Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble is like a broken tooth, and a foot out of joint.

(Prov 31:10 KJV) Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. 11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. 12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

(Prov 30:8 KJV) Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me: 9 Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.

(Luke 12:15 KJV) And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

(Heb 13:5 KJV) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

(Acts 14:17 KJV) Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.

(1 Tim 6:8 KJV) And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

(Rev 19:7 KJV) Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

(Acts 14:22 KJV) Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Prov 14:12 KJV) There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

(Prov 14:13 KJV) Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirth is heaviness.

(Prov 14:14 KJV) The backslider in heart shall be filled with his own ways: and a good man shall be satisfied from himself.

(Prov 14:15 KJV) The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.

(Prov 14:16 KJV) A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.

(Prov 14:17 KJV) He that is soon angry dealeth foolishly: and a man of wicked devices is hated.

(Prov 14:18 KJV) The simple inherit folly: but the prudent are crowned with knowledge.

(Prov 14:19 KJV) The evil bow before the good; and the wicked at the gates of the righteous.

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January 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm (Uncategorized) (Christianity, forgiveness, Heaven, Jesus)

The personal importance, significance of the death of Jesus upon the cross and the shedding of his blood for each one of us.

Jesus said, “Father forgive them; for they know not what they do”, Luke 23:34.

It is written, “…and made intercession for the transgressors”, Isaiah 53:12.

Mankind’s sinful nature

Undeniably all, each man is a sinner because he was born a sinner, he fell short of the Glory of God, the holiness of God himself and as a result could not hope to see God, dwell with him next.

The ten commandments of God

The ten commandments of God indicated God’s law and what God had, is expecting each one of us to do, to keep daily still as well

Even most secular scholars can easily recognize that the very first Christians based their lives on following the major, great spiritual law of God—the Ten Commandments.

When the apostles had said, “The Lord Jesus Christ,” they recognized that the word “Lord” means “Boss”—the One even you should obey! Jesus reminded them again and again of this vital relationship, as in Luke 6:46: “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say?” TOO many Men have lost all deep respect for law even because they have forgotten the very source of all law and authority! God, Jesus, the Bible.

The Bible says: “There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy” (James 4:12). That lawgiver is Almighty God.Having made their imaginative pet “god” in their own image, men certainly do not stand in awe and deep respect of such a “god.” The real message of Jesus Christ was about the God who created this earth! His was the God who blessed men for obedience to His laws—and who punished for disobedience. The Jesus Christ of your Bible always preached the gospel of the Kingdom of God (Mark 1:14; Luke 4:43). In modern language, He preached the happy news of the government of God—the rule of God. He God had said: “Repent, and believe in the gospel” (Mark 1:15). Before you can sincerely believe and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior, and have His shed blood cover your sins, you must repent. Despite the contradictory ideas and generalizations of men the Bible still clearly states: “Sin is the transgression of the law” (1 John 3:4, KJV). Sin is breaking God’s spiritual law—the Ten Commandments. That is definitely and specifically what sin is!

Before God will next forgive your past sins, you must first even personally repent of breaking His law! You must learn to fear and respect God as the Supreme Ruler of this universe—and as your King and Ruler. Solomon, the wisest man who ever lived, was inspired to write: “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge” (Proverbs 1:7). Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws” (Genesis 26:5).

Clearly now many persons have even violated the First Commandment

“And God spoke all these words, saying, ‘I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me’” (Exodus 20:1–3). For are you falsely worshipping according to the “traditions of men,” which Jesus said would cause you to worship God in vain? (Mark 7:7). For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God (1 Corinthians 1:20). The real basis of all idolatry is that self-willed, rebellious mankind refuses to surrender himself to worship the true God in the way that He commands! A Truly Converted, born again from above Person Knows God.And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind” (Romans 12:2). The Bible even directly describes people of our day as “having a form of godliness, but denying its power” (2 Timothy 3:5). The Bible shows that many people in Jesus’ day failed in their worship, for “they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God” (John 12:43).

The Second Commandment Stated. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets” (Matthew 22:37–40). But falsely now putting down, bashing people for their beliefs was not the way to go too..In His teaching in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus stated: “Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whoever does and teaches them [even the “least” commandments], he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19).”For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments” (Exodus 20:5–6). That excludes now slander, bulling, bashing others too.

The Third Commandment Stated. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain” (Exodus 20:7). So we must guard against making a god out of anything—and putting it in place of the true God. God commands us to worship Him directly—to walk with Him, to talk with Him, to really know and worship Him in spirit and truth—and to avoid using any image, picture or physical object as an “aid” to worship or to “remind” us of the great Creator. The third commandment deals with God’s name, His office, His position as the great sovereign Ruler of the universe: ”In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). God sometimes called Himself El Shaddai, which means “Almighty God.” So God is the source of all power! His name should be revered, because it stands for the one who is the source of all power, all might, and all authority.

The Fourth Commandment “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it” (Exodus 20:8–11).

The Fifth Commandment “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you” (Exodus 20:12). Jesus Christ lived the message He taught. His own personal life is a dramatic illustration of obedience to the fifth commandment. Just before His death, Jesus said: “I have kept My Father’s commandments” (John 15:10).

The Sixth Commandment “Thou shalt not murder” (Exodus 20:13, ) For it is possible to kill, yet not to murder. To even kill animals for food.

The Seventh Commandment You shall not commit adultery” (Exodus 20:14). Immediately after the sixth command, which declares the sacredness of human life, God gives this law to safeguard the highest earthly relationship. For marriage and the home are the basis of all decent society. All unchaste conduct before marriage is a wrong done to the future marriage, and unfaithfulness before marriage is violating the command as much as adultery committed after marriage. “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matthew 5:27–28). God says: “flee sexual immorality” (1 Corinthians 6:18). The seventh commandment covers in principle all forms of illicit sex, including male and female homosexuality—Notice Ephesians 5:22–24: “Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church: and He is the Savior of the body. Therefore, just as the church; is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.”Now it becomes increasingly clear why Jesus Christ taught the enduring quality of the marriage vow. When Jesus was asked by the hypocritical Pharisees why Moses allowed divorce in Old Testament times, He answered: “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery” (Matthew 19:8–9).”For the Lord God of Israel says that He hates divorce…” (Malachi 2:16). Again: “…The Lord has been witness between you and the wife of your youth, with whom you have dealt treacherously; yet she is your companion, and your wife by covenant” (v. 14). There is no question, then, that God hates divorce— Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (Heb 13:4 KJV) When statistics now show that over 50 percent of evangelical pastors are divorced, have committed adultery these acts are really unacceptable on their parts.

The Eighth Commandment This is God’s law protecting all private property and possessions: “You shall not steal” (Exodus 20:15). that includes now cheating the government or falsifying an income tax return.The eighth commandment recognizes the legitimate acquisition of personal, corporate property, and forbids it’s theft. And thus forbids any lawlessness and deception business practices or Thievery Through False Advertising. Or wealth that is tarnished by ill-gotten gain”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators… nor thieves… will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9–10, KJV). “Indeed the wages of the laborers… which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries… have reached the ears of the Lord…” (James 5:4).” Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say, ‘In what way have we robbed You?’ Robbed me of my tithes and offerings” (Malachi v.

was also now addressed mainly to church pastors now too.

The Ninth Commandment ”You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” (Exodus 20:16). Ironically is often violated by church pastors themselves too many of whom are know for their slandering others.. or the despicable too often lawyers lying in the courts now too. For, as the Apostle Paul said, “If God is for us, who can be against us?” (Romans 8:31). Jesus said: “Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake” (Matthew 5:11). Jesus Christ revealed: “When he [Satan] speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar, and the father of it” (John 8:44). Those who follow Satan in his refusal to live by truth have a terrible fate awaiting them: “But the cowardly, unbelieving… and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8).

The Tenth Commandment “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s” (Exodus 20:17). And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. (Rev 18:14 KJV)

In reality this too is applicable to all mankind..

(Jer 5:8 KJV) They were as fed horses in the morning: every one neighed after his neighbour’s wife.

(Jer 5:9 KJV) Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

(Jer 5:10 KJV) Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD’S.

(Jer 5:11 KJV) For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD.

(Jer 5:12 KJV) They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine:

(Jer 5:13 KJV) And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.

(Jer 5:14 KJV) Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

(Prov 6:29 KJV) So he that goeth in to his neighbour’s wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.

(Prov 6:32 KJV) But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul. A wound and dishonour shall he get; and his reproach shall not be wiped away. For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gifts.

(Lev 20:10 KJV) And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

(Lev 20:11 KJV) And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

(Lev 20:12 KJV) And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them.

(Lev 20:13 KJV) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

(Lev 20:14 KJV) And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.

(Lev 20:15 KJV) And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

(Lev 20:16 KJV) And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

(Lev 20:17 KJV) And if a man shall take his sister, his father’s daughter, or his mother’s daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister’s nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

(Lev 20:18 KJV) And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

(Lev 20:19 KJV) And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother’s sister, nor of thy father’s sister: for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity.

(Lev 20:20 KJV) And if a man shall lie with his uncle’s wife, he hath uncovered his uncle’s nakedness: they shall bear their sin; they shall die childless.

Because no man could even firstly be justified by keeping all the commandments of God, could not be saved as a result as well he God next sent his own son Jesus to personally die. she is own innocent, pure blood for all, for each one of us, to shed his blood so we all can live next in heaven with God, him.

(Heb 9:22 KJV) And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

(Heb 9:27 KJV) And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

(Heb 9:28 KJV) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

(Heb 10:1 KJV) For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

(Heb 10:10 KJV) By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

(Heb 10:17 KJV) And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

(2 Cor 5:21 KJV) For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
(1 Pet 2:22 KJV) Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
(1 John 3:5 KJV) And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
(John 18:38 KJV) Pilate ..saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.

The Bible now clearly says

Jesus had no sin.
Jesus did not sin.
Jesus knew no sin.
He, Jesus was the perfect, sinless, holy, righteous Son of God.
Jesus Christ is sinless.
There is nothing wrong with him, Jesus.
There’s no fault in him, jesus.
There’s no shadow of turning in him, Jesus.
There’s no guile or deception in him, jesus.
He, Jesus is a sinless Savior.
Pilate said, “I don’t find anything wrong with him”…
The death of Jesus was a very vicious death.
First of all, Jesus, his death was vicious physically.
First Pilate took Jesus and had him flogged.
the soldiers twisted together a crown of thorns.
they clothed him, Jesus in a purpose robe.
and they struck him in the face.
They made Jesus cary his own cross.
And so here is Jesus carrying this cross that weighs probably several hundred pounds.
and next they crucified him, Jesus”This is what is written, the Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations,
beginning at Jerusalem.” (Luke 24:46)

Man of Sorrows by Phillip Bliss.

“Man of Sorrows,” what a name,
For the Son of God who came
Ruined sinners to reclaim!
Hallelujah! What a Savior!Bearing shame and scoffing rude,
In my place condemned He stood;
Sealed my pardon with His blood:
Hallelujah! What a Savior!Guilty, vile and helpless, we:
Spotless Lamb of God was He:
“Full atonement!” can it be?
Hallelujah! What a Savior! “Lifted up” was He to die,
“It is finished,” was His cry;
Now in heav’n exalted high:
Hallelujah! What a Savior!

When He comes, our glorious King,
All His ransomed home to bring,
Then anew this song we’ll sing:
Hallelujah! What a Savior!

Jesus death on a cross

The crucifixion is one of the most heinous form of capital punishment ever created.
He jesus was suspended up between heaven and earth…
And there Jesus died the most horrible, vicious death known to man.
But if Jesus Christ had not died upon the cross for us…
Then you and I would be hopelessly lost in our sin.”And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit:
and having said thus, he gave up the ghost”, Luke 23:46.
“… God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh
& for sin condemned sin in the flesh”, Romans 8:3.”But God commendeth his love toward us, in that,
while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us”, Romans 5:8.
Jesus Christ is the lid of covering. His blood covers all our sin (I John 1:7).

It was GOD’s perfect plan that we would accept Jesus as an offering for our sin

(Isaiah 53:10).GOD provided a lamb that was Jesus Christ, as our passover offering

(I Corinthians 5:7).Jesus is, “the Christ, the Son of the living GOD”, Matthew 16:16,
“the Lamb of GOD who taketh away the sin of the world”, John 1:29.
He had come here to finish His Father’s work and to do His Father’s will.
His death on the cross finished this work, overcoming the curse of sin and death.
All that had been lost would now be gathered & made new again in Chirst & restored to the Father.

Jesus said, “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
This he said, signifying what death he should die.” John 12:32 and 33.
“He did that once for all when he offered himself.” (Hebrews 7:28).
Deuteronomy 21:23 … “He that is hanged is accursed is accursed of God.”
Galatians 3:13 … “Cursed in anyone that hangeth on a tree.”
When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He died as a sacrifice,
to pay for the sins of each, all the people like you and me.
When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He purchased, made possible
a new relationship between God and sinful people … a relationship of love and peace.

“And the sun was darkened, & the veil of the temple was rent in the midst”, Luke 23:45.
“And the earth did quake, & the rocks rent …”, Matthew 27:51.

The Old Testament scriptures contain the law & the Messianic prophecies that Jesus would fulfill.
And He fulfilled them all. Let us look at some of these. Jesus was nailed to the cross. There is an account in Exodus 17:8-15, of the battle between Israel and Amalek. It is taught that this battle represents the battle between spirit & flesh. The imagery in this account in Exodus parallels that of the crucifiction. Moses standing on a hill with Aaron and Hur. When the hands of Moses were raised Israel prevailed but when they became heavy and began to fall to his side Amalek prevailed. So Aaron & Hur helped Moses to hold up his hands. When Moses was too tired to stand, he sat on a rock. The rock representing Christ but also there is some speculation that there was a ledge on the cross to sit on. This is a picture of the crucifiction. Jesus in the middle and the two malefactors on either side. The difference being that the nails held up the hands of Jesus in victory. The scripture declaring, “And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place…”, Isaiah 22:23.It is written in Matthew 27:35, “And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots…”, which fulfilled Psalm 22:18. “They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture”. This brings to mind two things. First, “…for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness…”, Isaiah 61:10. The second, that the action of dividing his garments was a sign that believers would receive a portion and be covered with, “His garments of salvation & the robe of His righteousness”.Matthew 27:39-40, “And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads”, which fulfilled both Psalm 22:7 & 109:25. Matthew 27 verse 40, “And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross”.There is an account in Nehemiah, in the 6th chapter, of the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem. The enemies of Nehemiah tried to get him to come down from his work on the wall. “…Come, let us meet together in some one of the villages in the plain of Ono. But they thought to do me mischief. And I sent messengers unto them saying, I am doing a great work, so that I cannot come down: why should the work cease, whilst I leave it, and come down to you”, Nehemiah 6:2-3.

I believe the account given in the 6th chapter of Nehemiah answers the question of those who chided Jesus to come down from the cross. “…I am doing a great work, so that I cannot come down: why should the work cease, whilst I leave it, and come down to you”, Nehemiah 6:3.

John 19:28, “…Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scriptures might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst”.
“Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar,

and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth”, John 19:29.
“When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished”, John 19:30.
Jesus had come to do His Father’s work. “Jesus saith unto them,

My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work”, John 4:34.John 19:30, “…and bowed his head and gave up the ghost”.

The Father had given Jesus the power to give His life and to take it back again.
Jesus said, “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of my self. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.

This commandment have I received of my Father”, John 10:17-18.

In regard still to Jesus

“Jesus him was life and the life was the light of men”, John 1:4.Jesus said, “I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live”, John 11:26.Jesus is:
Our Advocate (1 John 2:1), the Alpha and Omega (Revelation 1:8), the Amen (Revelation 3:14),
and the Author and Finisher of our Faith (Hebrews 12:2).
He is the Beloved Son (Matthew 12:18), the Bridegroom (Mark 2:19-20), Branch (Isaiah 4:2)
and Bread of Life (John 6:32).
Jesus is the Captain of our Salvation (Hebrews 2:10), the Corner-stone (Isaiah 28:16),
Counselor (Isaiah 9:6), Creator (John 1:3), Dayspring (Luke 1:78), our Deliverer (Romans 11:26),
the Door (John 10:7, 9), Emmanuel (Isaiah 9:6) and the Everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6).
He’s the Faithful Witness (Revelation 1:5), the First Begotten of the Dead (Revelation 1:5),
the Glory of the Lord (John 17:1), the Good Shepherd (John 10:11),
our Great High Priest (Hebrews 4:14), Head of the Church (Ephesians 1:22), the Holy One (Acts 3:14)
and the Horn of our Salvation (Luke 1:69).
Jesus Christ is the Great I Am (Exodus 3:14; John 6:35), the Image of God (II Corinthians 4:4),
the Judge (Matthew 25:31-46), the Just One (Acts 7:52), King of Kings and Lord of Lords (Revelation 19:16),
the Lamb of God (John 1:29,36), the Life (John 14:6), Light of the World (John 8:1)
and the Lion of Judah (Rev 5:5). Jesus is the Man of Sorrows (Isaiah 53:3), Mediator (I Timothy 2:5),
Messiah (John 1:41), Morning Star (Revelation 22:16), the Nazarene (Matthew 2:23),
our Passover (I Corinthians 5:7), Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6) and Prophet (Acts 3:22).
He is called Rabbi (John 3:2), Redeemer (Job 19:25), Resurrection (John 11:25),
Rock (I Corinthians 10:4), Rose of Sharon (Song of Songs 2:1), Savior (Luke 2:11),
the Son of the Highest (Luke 1:32), Son of Man (John 6:53), Suffering Servant (Isaiah 42:1-4)
and the Sun of Righteousness (Malachi 4:2).
Jesus is the Truth (John 14:6), the Vine (John 15:1), the Way (John 14:6), the Witness (Isaiah 55:4)
and the Word (John 1:1).

The mercy seat of God

Ps 99:1 The LORD reigns; let the peoples tremble! He dwells between the cherubim; let the earth be moved!(Exo 25:17-22 KJV) And thou shalt make a mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. {18} And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. {19} And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. {20} And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be. {21} And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee. {22} And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.Exod 25:8-9 “And let them make Me a sanctuary, that I may dwell among them. According to all that I show you, that is, the pattern of the tabernacle and the pattern of all its furnishings, just so you shall make it.”

Exod 25:22 “And there I will meet with you, and I will speak with you from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim which are on the ark of the Testimony, about everything which I will give you in commandment to the children of Israel.”

So the outstretched wings of the cherubim were to provide a throne for the God where He would mediate His rule on the earth as a representation of the real throne in heaven:

1 Sam 4:4 So the people sent men to Shiloh, and they brought back the Ark of the Covenant of the LORD Almighty, who is enthroned between the cherubim. (NIV)

When God had spoken to Moses out of the midst of the cloud upon Sinai, He also told him that He would come down to speak with him in the midst of His people. It was from the area above the Mercy Seat that He did:

Num 7:89 Now when Moses went into the tabernacle of meeting to speak with Him, he heard the voice of One speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was on the ark of the Testimony, from between the two cherubim; thus He spoke to him.

Heb 9:2-5 “For a tabernacle was prepared: the first part, in which was the lampstand, the table, and the showbread, which is called the sanctuary; and behind the second veil, the part of the tabernacle, which is, called the Holiest of All, which had the golden censer and the ark of the covenant overlaid on all sides with gold, in which were the golden pot that had the manna, Aaron’s rod that budded, and the tablets of the covenant; and above it were the cherubim of glory overshadowing the mercy seat. Of these things we cannot now speak in detail.”

Rom 3:23-26 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.”

The Greek word for Mercy Seat is ‘hilasterion’. It is used here in Romans 3:25 where Paul says (literally) that God presented Christ as a propitiation or ‘mercy seat’. This means that Jesus Christ is the mercy seat.
The Mercy Seat did not derive its worth from the purity of its gold but from the fact that it was the place where the blood of sacrifice was sprinkled in the presence of God.
The word for “mercy seat” is the same root for the word “atonement”. It means to cover, cancel, appease, or cleanse.

The Greek equivalent is the word “propitiation”.

Lk 18:13 “And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, `God, be merciful to me a sinner!’

Ex 25:18-20 “And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work you shall make them at the two ends of the mercy seat. “Make one cherub at one end, and the other cherub at the other end; you shall make the cherubim at the two ends of it of one piece with the mercy seat. “And the cherubim shall stretch out their wings above, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and they shall face one another;

the faces of the cherubim shall be toward the mercy seat.
- They represent the judgment of God.
- Their position indicates that God’s judgment upon Israel was averted because of the blood-sprinkled mercy seat.
- The Cherubim are revealed by Ezekiel in chapter 1:5-10 as 4 living creatures, each one having 4 different faces, the face of a man, lion, ox, and eagle.

This mercy seat was placed on top of the ark and it was here that the blood was sprinkled.

Lev 16:11-15 “And Aaron shall bring the bull of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house, and shall kill the bull as the sin offering which is for himself. “Then he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from the altar before the LORD, with his hands full of sweet incense beaten fine, and bring it inside the veil. “And he shall put the incense on the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of incense may cover the mercy seat that is on the Testimony, lest he die. “He shall take some of the blood of the bull and sprinkle it with his finger on the mercy seat on the east side; and before the mercy seat he shall sprinkle some of the blood with his finger seven times. “Then he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat.

Lev 16:30 “For on that day the priest shall make atonement for you, to cleanse you, that you may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.
- Because of the mercy seat the tabernacle was called “the tent of meeting”. Because here God met with man:

Ex 25:21-22 “You shall put the mercy seat on top of the ark, and in the ark you shall put the Testimony that I will give you. “And there I will meet with you, and I will speak with you from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim which are on the ark of the Testimony, about everything which I will give you in commandment to the children of Israel

1 Jn 2:2 And He ( Jesus) Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

Note that the
1.Ark – contained God’s holy laws the ten commandements- – and there was no hope for me even keeping them there – “all come short of the glory of God and every mouth is stopped.” = condemned to DEATH We are all bad sinnners, enough to be condemned to death. I am guilty before God. Any hope? or “It’s the best I could do?” Can I have such hope of dslavation based on the law? No.
2. Mercy Seat – cover of ark with cherubim = represents our personal justification by the covering of our sin
Propitiation = Christ set forth to be a covering or complete payment for the “sin of the world.” God provided his sacrifice to completely fulfill the penalty of our sin.
Where do the cherubim look? They look down on the mercy seat at the blood and the site where God meets His own. This teaches us all :Christ accepted on my behalf the punishment for our sin in the presence of God! The pure gold represents the most valuable possible symbol to show the price paid to unlock the gate of heaven to us.
3: The veil reminds us of God previously hid in heaven, yet next by Jesuss God is in complete access to all believers today. The ark/mercy seat point to our forerunner, the Lord Jesus Christ. This is based on His propitiation for our sins:Romans 3:25 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;I John 4:10 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.Lk 22:20 Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.

Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

1 Pet 1:18-19 knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.

Heb 9:11-12 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

Heb 9:28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

Dan 7:9-10 “I watched till thrones were put in place, and the Ancient of Days was seated; his garment was white as snow, and the hair of His head was like pure wool. His throne was a fiery flame, its wheels a burning fire; A fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him. A thousand thousands ministered to Him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.

Dan 7:13-14 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Rev 5:1-13 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals. Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?” And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it. So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it. But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.” And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne. Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll, and to open its seals; for You were slain, and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, And have made us kings and priests to our God; and we shall reign on the earth.” Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom, and strength and honor and glory and blessing!” And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: “Blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever!”

Ps 99:1 The LORD reigns; let the peoples tremble! He dwells between the cherubim; let the earth be moved!

Jesus said “For apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:5).The land of a rich man was very productive, and he began reasoning to himself, saying, ‘What shall I do, since I have no place to store my crops?” Then he said, “This is what I will do: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, ’soul, you have many goods, laid up for many years to come; take your ease, eat , drink and be merry.’ But God said to him, “You fool! This very night your soul is required of you, who will own what you have prepared? So is the man who stores up treasures for himself and is not rich toward God.” (Luke 12:15-22)”…Make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, and unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. ” (Mat 6:20-21 KJV) For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Hebrews 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

(Isa 66:1 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Revelations 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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Intro

January 4, 2008 at 9:43 pm (Uncategorized) (adultery, Christians, evangelical, gossip, pastors)

My introduction to the Evangelical Christians In Canada.

My introduction to the Evangelical Christians In Canada. Somehow they all mostly got to wrongfully believe that preaching the Gospel was a false unacceptable alternative to them now living it as well..I can remember when I was 25 years old, green, ignorant, inexperienced and that was the age at which I was first introduced to a dirty, lying , no good evangelical Pastor and his similarly false supporters. I was really shocked by their attitudes, behaviors especially in a Christian Church. These were mostly self made men who clearly and wrongfully had no fear or respect for God, never mind anyone else. For they too readily abused anyone who came across their paths too. Dirty elders, dirty deacons and a dirty pastor is just what we all do not need.

My next dramatic shock was to be told by one of my employees that he had gone with his wife to see a pastor and the pastor recommend to his wife that she divorce him and she too readily jumped at the opportunity too. That certainly was not what pastors where here for to destroy trouble damage instead of now helping wounded marriages to be made whole.

My next shock was to be told personally by my new church pastor in my local neighborhood church located near my home too that most of the pastors now in north America were bad, crooked in reality.

My next shock was to discover how many Evangelical Pastors too readily counsel divorce and have also committed adultery, even over half of them.. me thus finding out that the Canadian pastors too were clearly mostly sex maniacs was an unnerving experience too.

Then my last shock was to personally next find out how really pretentious, abusive, indifference to the needs of others, Pharisaic too, uncaring, most of the evangelical pastors were, for they were clearly the “hireling” type Jesus himself had called as being hypocrites too.. for they also tended too often to lie, abused members and adherents, steal, gossip and slandered others as I often saw firsthand too…

Some how they all mostly got to wrongfully believe that preaching the Gospel was a false unacceptable alternative to them now living it as well..

(James 3:1 KJV) My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
3 Behold, we put bits in the horses’ mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

(James 4:1 KJV) From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?
2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Gossip , slander a too common sin of the evangelical pastors themselves

“ One of the Ten Commandments (which is often forgotten) warns against giving false testimony or witness. The following passage is from Matthew 19:16-19 NIV: A man came up to Jesus and asked, ‘Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?’ …Jesus replied,…’If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.’ ‘Which ones?’ the man inquired. Jesus replied, ‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony[1], honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” It seems most pastor wrongfully as well do not practice this verse too

“In the book of Leviticus – which was an extensive guide for the people of God on how to practically live out the Ten Commandments – Moses seemed to indicate that the command against bearing false witness encompassed more verbal sins than just lying. He gave the people strict instructions against tale-bearing: “You shall not go about as a talebearer among your people!”(Lev. 19:16, NKJV). Tale-bearing is a term that includes lying, gossiping, slandering, whispering, speaking ill, and in some cases, even seemingly innocent blabbing.The Greek words associated with tale-bearing are “diabolos” (accusing), “blasphemeo” (defaming), and “katalalia” (speaking against). According to the Bible, tale-bearing speech is any speech that accuses or defames a person or casts them in a negative light. All tale-bearing is condemned, whether the tales are false (Mt. 5:11), true (Prov. 17:9), malicious (Ps. 31:13), or merely foolish (Prov. 10:18). Women, in particular, are warned to avoid bearing and listening to tales (Tit. 2:3; 1 Tim. 3:11).Tale-bearing can have absolutely devastating results. According to Proverbs, it injures like a club, sword, or sharp arrow (Prov. 25:18). It stirs up dissention (Prov. 10:12) and kindles strife (Prov. 26:21). It tarnishes reputations (Prov. 25:10). Worst of all, it separates close friends and fractures relationships (Prov. 17:9). That’s probably why, of all our failures in speech, tale-bearing is amongst the most appalling in God’s eyes (Prov. 6:19). , “Whoever slanders his neighbor in secret, him will I put to silence…him will I not endure” (Psa. 101:5). “You speak continually against your brother and slander your own mother’s son…But I will rebuke you and accuse you to your face!” (Psa. 50:20-21).”

“The Greek word we translate “gossip” only appears one time in the New Testament, in 2 Cor. 12:20, where it is katalalia, which means backbiting, evil speaking, defamation. The root of katalalia is to utter words that talk against or to go as a slanderer. This is compared with the whisperer of Romans 1:29, or the slanderer or backbiter (katalalos, same root) of Romans 1:30. What interests me is that bigoted Christians love to parade the anti-homosexual bias of these verses but ignore the bits against whisperers and backbiters,” and divorce, adultery.

I too once used to believe that there was no sin that God could not forgive or overlook and I also had wrongfully believed that God does not tend to punish people for their sins in this world.. until time had passed and I saw the truth of many professing Christians reaping negative consequences for what they had sowed,,

The unforgiveable free will sin of deliberate rebellion and slander..”Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man [i.e., Jesus himself] will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.” Blasphemeo is a Greek verb meaning “to slander”. Our Lord’s enemies were, are slandering his work; and since his work is done in the power of the Spirit, they are blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. What is in truth of God, they label devilish; what is truly good, they perversely call evil; what is genuinely restorative, they denounce as deceptive and destructive. They are doing exactly what Isaiah had spoken of 700 years earlier: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. In reality they hate so much the truth Jesus brings and the truth he is that they harden themselves against the truth. They slander God himself (the Spirit, remember, is the power of God in our midst); they slander God himself, denying that God himself is the power by which the Son of God does the work of God. The unforgivable sin is the utter rebellion against God that denies God to be the doer of his own deeds. The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, then, is a deliberate, wilful smearing of the power of God as the force of evil. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is a deliberate, wilful, ever-hardening denial of what is undeniably the work of God. And such hardening, says Jesus, eventually is irreversible. “He will not break a bruised reed or quench a smouldering wick…”. The weakest faith; the most faltering discipleship; the most hesitant, doubt-filled following; honest doubt and genuine perplexity; all of this our Lord sees and notes and helps. None of it will he scorn or dismiss. And none of it must we ever, ever suggest to be anything approaching the blasphemy against the Spirit. Weak faith he strengthens; faltering faith he makes resolute; genuine perplexity he addresses. He doesn’t break bruised reeds or quench smouldering wicks. He has nothing but compassion and help for all who cry that their struggle for faith is just that: a struggle. At the same time, he has nothing but condemnation for those who persist unrelentingly in maintaining that light is darkness and darkness light, that evil is good and good evil.”So blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, persistent slander of that power of God by which Jesus Christ acted and still acts. Such blasphemy or slander is to call a good work evil, evil good, light darkness and darkness light. People are tempted to do this for any number of reasons, none of which is excusable. Such slander or blasphemy, such perverse defiance, persisted in can be persisted in until correction becomes impossible.”

(Isa 59:15 KJV) Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

(Prov 21:29 KJV) A wicked man hardeneth his face: but as for the upright, he directeth his way.

(Prov 28:14 KJV) Happy is the man that feareth alway: but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief.

(Prov 29:1 KJV) He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

(Rom 9:18 KJV) Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

“In contrast to the above now Peter asks Jesus how many times a disciple should forgive the person who offends and does next asks for, accepts our forgivness. Seven times would surely be more than enough. “Seventy times seven is more like it”, says Jesus, “there’s no limit to the forgiveness we must press upon those who offend us.” If Jesus insists there’s to be no limit to our forgiveness, it’s absurd to think there would be any limit to God’s. Jesus reinforces this point through the parable of the unforgiving servant. The bottom line of the parable is lucid: the servant ought to have forgiven his neighbour simply because God had already poured limitless forgiveness, inexhaustible forgiveness, upon the servant himself. So vast is God’s mercy in forgiving the servant that alongside God’s oceanic forgiveness of the servant, the neighbour’s violation of the same servant is a trifle. In other words, God’s pardon is immeasurable and inexhaustible. Wherever Jesus speaks severely, he speaks tenderly in the very next breath.”

In Mat 23:15 speaking about the religious hypocrites Jesus himself had said:“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves” Religious Hypocrites not only fail to enter in heaven but they do take others into Hell with them. (Jer 23:14 KJV) I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

As Jesus taught the words of God and also had worked miracles, some of the people present were clearly amazed that He taught with authority and not as the scribes and that even demons obeyed His word (Mt 7: 28-29; Mk 1: 22-27). Mark 1: 27 ‘What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him.”The religious people of the day themselves even next like many of them today as well they next still sat in darkness while they rather skeptically debated the issues of Jesus healing on the Sabbath day, His disciples’ habit of eating food with unwashed hands and other such meaningless matters too

“Is not this the carpenter’s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?” (Mat 13:55).

“Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.” (Mar 6:3).

and they thus had missed the words, the work of God too, Jesus and his followers doing the will of the Lord, laying hands on the sick, casting out demons, tearing down strongholds andf anyone without love is like “… sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal” (1 Cor 13: 1). And these people without love become like the Scribes, Pharisees and Sadducee. and t hey are fixed on doing works and outward appearances for salvation. The exact letter of the law was more important to them than love. Jesus again rebuked them when He said:“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.” (Mt 23: 23).

Thse same People without love therefore become fixed in an era of spiritual truth and vigorously persecute those preaching new and revealed truth of the Word. Their hypocritcal, relgious spirt, their spirit of religious fanaticism also manifests in the form of male dominance and/or bullying, bashing, or some other form of pwer control which is exerted through the leadership or the system itself. This manifests next in the founding of a new cult.

Do note that one also personaly does not need to be doing anything “sinful” in the sense of sins such as fornication and adultery to be a hypocrite . Paul experienced and dealt with similar problems of the hypocritical Christians in the early church when false teachers crept in to persuade the gentile believers to become circumcised in order to be saved. This false teaching had caused such an uproar in the church that he and Barnabas had to go to Jerusalem to settle the issue. When he next had wrote to the Galatians, he placed the responsibility squarely on Apostle’s Peter’s shoulders even:

Gal 2: 11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.2 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Peter’s example would certainly be called “two faced” today. And do we also still say one thing in front of people and another behind their backs? “We all still do need to “walk uprightly according to the truth of the gospel even elders and pastors”.

The ministry of truth but also of compassion is also a very important element of the Apostle’s ministry. Paul revealed four important elements of that ministry as revealed in Jesus’ life in Hebrews 2: 9-18. These are the characteristics that should be present in anyone carrying the title “Apostle”.

While the unrepentant wicked persons they do even twist the scriptures, do try to manipulate other people, playing on the mass, trying to getting the whole crowd even to do things their way. They also manipulated People’s weakness and they try to manipulate even daily events. But we will rise again for no weapon will prosper against the servant of the Lord.

Adultery, a too common unacceptable sin of Evangelical pastors now as well.

The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein. (Proverbs 22:14 KJV) Don’t even look at any “strange women.” If you do, you will utter perverse things. Proverbs 23:33

“King David was one of the most anointed prophets because he had such an intimate relationship with God. He was a man after God’s own heart, hearing conversations between the Father and Son. However, he had a weakness and next fell because he also gave heed to a seducing spirit. Clearly Bathsheba as a woman who portrayed herself to David as a woman in whom he could obtain sexual satisfaction. His eyes saw her nakedness and beauty, then his spirit succumbed to the temptation. David’s hunger for the sexual act was actively stimulated by Bathsheba’s sexual attraction, which she played up by her aggressive sexual overtures, for Bathsheba likley was possessed by a spirit of lust and seduction. Her husband was away at war and she set up her enticement at a critical time in her menstrual cycle – the time of ovulation. How do we know this? 2 Samuel 11: 4, 5 say that when David saw her he “sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. And the woman conceived, and sent and told David, and said, I am with child.” Did she plan to become pregnant by the king? As soon as she realized that she was pregnant, she sent to tell David. Her enticement came with a price which included the pregnancy, but also the murder of her husband so David could marry her and cover the pregnancy, the death of the child at birth, loss of fellowship with God (Ps 51) and a fourfold curse on David (2 Sam 12: 8- 15). David had to pay bitterly in the long term. This all was too much of a price to pay for King david’s one night stand. We all need to be careful, because the enemy, the devil, he knows our weaknesses and he still does sends seducing spirit to us to cause us all to fall. If you are a man or woman of God, they will almost be up in your face all of the time, even among the church members, leaders (yes, believe it or not), choir etc. In essence, Bathsheba killed the growth of King David’s godly dreams, ministry and future all led by the devil now himself too. The seductress Bathsheba will tempt you while you are engaged in ministry activities, betray you while you are out doing the work of the Lord (if you marry the person). Bathsheba will also kill your self esteem, your dreams and hopes. Bathsheba is a serpent. Some of these serpents are easy to discern and the serpents reveal themselves. Some are not discernible and the serpents look just like the individual “

(Exo 20:14 KJV) Thou shalt not commit adultery.

(Prov 6:32 KJV) But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

(Jer 3:8 KJV) And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

(Jer 3:9 KJV) And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.

(Jer 5:7 KJV) How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots’ houses.

(Jer 7:9 KJV) Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

(Jer 23:14 KJV) I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

(Jer 29:23 KJV) Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.

(Ezek 16:32 KJV) But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

(Ezek 23:37 KJV) That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour them.

(Hosea 4:2 KJV) By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.

(Hosea 4:13 KJV) They sacrifice upon the tops of the mountains, and burn incense upon the hills, under oaks and poplars and elms, because the shadow thereof is good: therefore your daughters shall commit whoredom, and your spouses shall commit adultery.

(Mat 5:27 KJV) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

(Mat 5:32 KJV) But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

(Mat 19:9 KJV) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

(Mark 10:11 KJV) And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

(Mark 10:12 KJV) And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

(Luke 16:18 KJV) Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

(Rom 2:22 KJV) Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?

(Rom 13:9 KJV) For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

(Gal 5:19 KJV) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

(James 2:11 KJV) For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

(2 Pet 2:14 KJV) Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

(Rev 2:22 KJV) Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

(Gen 38:10 KJV) And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

(Num 11:1 KJV) And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.

(1 Chr 21:7 KJV) And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel.

(Isa 59:15 KJV) Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

In the ongoing secular societies of today sex sins, specially sex outside of marriage, adultery is personally still taken too lightly, but these sins for Christians also do have real, serious negative consequences, the disapproval of God clearly indicated now in the Bible. In reality when one has indulged in adultery, one has tended to also simultaneously or previously indulged in many other unacceptable sins now too. Over 55 percent of evangelical pastors have committed adultery now too in North America… and it is no wonder they wrongfully tend to counsel divorce too.

The Real, Negative consequences of Sex Sin Examples in the Bible taken from http://www.porn-free.org/sex_sin_Bible.htm

[1] Who was involved
[2] Sin involved
[3] Effects/Consequences of the sin (direct or related)

Ham & Noah (Gen 9:20-27)
Voyeurism (looking at naked body)
Ham’s son Canaan and his descendants are cursed (future Canaanites)

Angels taking human wives (Gen 6:1-12, Jude 6-7, 2 Pet 2:4)

Indulged in gross sexual immorality with “strange flesh”

Abandoned proper place of power and dwelling to pursue sin

Every inclination of man’s heart became evil

Earth was corrupt and full of violence

God determined to destroy humanity by a flood

Sodom & Gomorrah (Jude 6-7, Gen 18:16-33; 19:1-29, Ezek 16:48-50)

Sexual immorality with “strange flesh”

Homosexuality

Pride

Gluttony

Idleness

Neglect of poor & needy
Both cities and the surrounding territory were destroyed by God

Lot & his daughters
(Gen 19:30-38)

Incest

Doubt: Daughters did not have faith that God would provide for them
The descendants (Ammonites and Moabites) became hated enemies of God’s people

Abraham, Sarah & Hagar (Gen 16:1-16; 21:8-21)

Adultery

Lacked faith to wait on God’s promised son

Ishmael’s descendants became one of the hated enemies of God’s people (Ishmaelites)

Strife, resentment, jealousy and abuse between Sarah & Hagar

Abraham was greatly distressed

Judah & Tamar (Gen 38)

Incest

Deception

Prostitution

Manipulation/Control

Hypocrisy

Tamar was almost executed

Judah’s sin was exposed

Since Judah repented (vs.26), some consequences may have been averted

Twin sons born out of wedlock

Rueben and his father’s concubine (Gen 35:22; 49:3-4; 1 Chron 5:1)

Incest

Defiled his father’s marriage bed

Rueben lost his birth right

Rueben and his descendants were cursed by Jacob

Joseph & Potiphar’s wife (Gen 39:6-13)

Lust

Lying

Slander

False accusation

Though innocent, Joseph loses trusted position in his master’s house and is imprisoned based on false accusations

Potiphar lost God’s blessing associated with Joseph (Gen.39:5)

Israelites w/Moabite & Midianite women (Num 25:1-10)

Seduction

Harlotry/Prostitution

Adultery

Idolatry

Israel was joined to the demon “Baal of Peor” through sexual worship

God’s anger was aroused and a plague ensued, killing 24,000

The guilty were executed

Israel retaliates against Midian for their seduction (Num 31)

Samson (Judges 14-16)

Lust

Pride

Broken vows

Manipulation/control

Anger

Taking revenge

Lying

Witchcraft (vexing)

Strife: Samson involved in several skirmishes with the Philistines

Deceived by both his wives and eventually captured

God’s Spirit left Samson

Samson’s eyes gouged out by his captors

Samson repented in captivity and God granted Samson’s death wish to strike the Philistines

The Levite, the harlot concubine and the Benjamite mob (Judges 19)

Prostitution

Adultery

Homosexuality

Lust

Fornication

Rape

Murder

The concubine died after being raped

Israel declared war on the Benjamites; thousands died (> 90,000)

David & Bathsheba (2 Sam 11-12)

Lust/Coveting

Murder

Manipulation

Conspiracy

Lying

Covering sin

David’s son dies

David brought reproach on God’sname – The Lord’s enemies had great occasionto blaspheme

Strife: The sword would never depart from David’s house

Rebellion: God raised up David’s son Absalom to rebel against David and lay with David’s wives in public

God spared David’s life because he repented

Amnon and Tamar (2 Sam 13)

Lust/Coveting

Conspiracy

Fornication

Hatred

Lying

Rape

Incest

Because of the cultural prejudice against unmarried non-virgins at the time, Tamar’s marriage prospects were greatly damaged, if not destroyed. She lived “desolate” in her brother Absalom’s house.

Absalom, murders Amnon in revenge

Absalom’s anger & rebellion was increased against his father, David, for failing to discipline Amnon

Absalom & his father’s wives
(2 Sam 16:21-22; 18:6-15)

Adultery

Rebellion

Dishonoring parents

Incest

Pride

Spiritual confusion; Absalom followed evil counsel

Absalom was caught by his hair in a tree and killed by Joab

Solomon & wives (1 Kg 11)

Love of pleasure

Sexual idolatry

Idolatry

Spiritual confusion

Strife: God raised up several adversaries against Solomon because of his disobedience

God tore the kingdom away from Solomon’s descendants and gave it to someone else

The seductress and her victim (Prov 6:24-26)

Deceit

Promiscuity/Adultery

Lust

Seduction with eyes

The victim’s life was snared and preyed upon

The victim reaped judgment, husband’s wrath, soul destruction, wounds, dishonor, reproach, no mercy

Jerusalem’s spiritual harlotry (Ezek 16- metaphorical)

Spiritual adultery

Pride: trusted in own beauty instead of God

Brazen harlotry

Sexual idolatry

Child sacrifice

Idolatry

Uncovered nakedness

God turned against Jerusalem, diminished their territory and gave them up to the will of their enemies

God uncovered her nakedness to all her enemies

God brought judgment on her in fury & jealousy

Her former lovers left her naked & bare

God raised up people to burn her houses and execute many judgments on her

Oholah (Ezek 23:1-10, 36-49) – metaphorical for the northern kingdom of Samaria)

Spiritual adultery

Lust

Idolatry

Fornication

Harlotry (continuous)/prostitution

Rebellion

Adultery

Child sacrifice

Defiled God’s sanctuary

Profaned the Sabbath

God delivered her into the hands of her enemies, the Assyrians; the Assyrians plundered Samaria, taking some people captive and killing others.

The Assyrians executed God’s judgment on Samaria

God gave her up to trouble and plunder

She and her sons and daughters would be killed, and their houses would be burned.

Oholibah (Ezek 23:1-4, 11-49 – metaphorical for the southern kingdom of Judah)

Fornication

Lust: after pictures ofChaldeans (Ezek.23:14-15)

Lust: after memories of youth sex sin (Ezek. 23:19-20)

Sexual Idolatry

Harlotry (more so than Samaria)/prostitution

Pride

Rebellion

Adultery

Child sacrifice

Defiled God’s sanctuary

Profaned the Sabbaths

Oholibah was defiled by her Chaldean lovers and she alienated herself from her lovers

God alienated himself from Oholibah

God stirred up her former lovers against her on every side

God delegated his judgment to Oholibah’s lovers to carry out on her – they dealt furiously and cruelly with her so that she would not continue in her sin

God set his jealousy against her

She was filled with drunkenness and sorrow (from God’s wrath)

She was held in derision and scorn

God gave her up to trouble and plunder

She and her sons and daughters would be killed, and their houses would be burned

The Romans (Rom 1:20-32)

Pride

Idolatry

Lust

Sexual immorality

Homosexuality

Covetousness

Maliciousness

Envy

Murder

Strife

Deceit

Evil-mindedness

Unforgiveness

Rebellion

Gossip/slander

Became futile in their thoughts

Their hearts were darkened

They became fools

God gave them up to uncleanness in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves

God gave them up to their vile passions (homosexuality)

They burned in lust for one another and committed shameful acts

They received due penalty for their acts (AIDS?)

God gave them over to a depraved mind

They were filled with evil

The sexually immoral brother and the Corinthian church (1 Cor 5:1-13)

Incest

Pride

Tolerating sinful practice in the church
Paul instructed the church to:
-Not keep company with the unrepentant brother
-Deliver the brother to Satan in hopes that he would repent

The Jezebel spirit and the church (Rev 2:19-25)

Sexual immorality

Idolatry

False teaching

Spiritual adultery

Unrepentance

Studying Satan’s “deep secrets” (occult)

Jezebel and those who sin with her will suffer intensely on a “bed of suffering” (unless they repent of Jezebel’s ways)

God will repay each person according to his deeds “

WATCH & PRAY

Negative consequences here on earth

Numbers 14:18 “The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.”

(Lev 19:15 KJV) Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

(Lev 19:16 KJV) Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

(Lev 19:17 KJV) Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

(Lev 19:18 KJV) Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

(Prov 18:8 KJV) The words of a talebearer are as wounds, and they go down into the innermost parts of the belly.

(Prov 20:19 KJV) He that goeth about as a talebearer revealeth secrets: therefore meddle not with him that flattereth with his lips.

(Prov 26:20 KJV) Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

(Prov 17:14 KJV) The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.

(Prov 17:15 KJV) He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

(Prov 18:12 KJV) Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honour is humility.

(Prov 18:13 KJV) He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

(Prov 18:21 KJV) Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

(Prov 21:23 KJV) Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.

(Prov 19:9 KJV) A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.

(Prov 19:27 KJV) Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge.

(Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

(Prov 20:22 KJV) Say not thou, I will recompense evil; but wait on the LORD, and he shall save thee.

(Prov 21:13 KJV) Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard.

“And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches chokes the word and it becomes unfruitful.” (Matthew 13:22)

Today, while we may heap some justifiable blame even on our leaders, our prime minister, but we must still all also take continual stock of our own lives and activities. Is it possible, or RATHER MORE LIKELY that we too now are somewhere SIMILAR down the road toward sin and do await our own REAL NEGATIVE PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES NEXT TOO? Yes even Idleness, the Investigation of others, our Ignoring God’s word, and his warnings to us, they all also can lead to the commission of OUR OWN sin.

The Old testament King David had an admirable real relationship with God? But what were David’s life relationships like next ? Did he make the right choices, decisions here too? Or did he himself now not appoint bad people into leadership positions, had made friendship with bad people too? What was his relationship like even with his own sons? God himself does not paint a picture of King David. He indeed was a man seeking to put God first in his life but he also personally sinned. The Old Testament King David was also a person occupied often with dealing with his enemies. (Psa 102:8 KJV) “Mine enemies reproach me all the day; and they that are mad against me are sworn against me.” The charismatic personality of David was illustrated by the fact that followers were attracted to him, followers who were willing to fight and die for him even in the dire straits. Some they became the most faithful of David’s followers, providing the closest personal security to King David as his palace guard too, Joab included. But all of his followers were not admirable as the Bible record also shows. King David ever retained and acted upon the knowledge that God was real and near. King David’s life illustrated his faith and obedience to his God. But his followers some of them they acted as the secular men who took no thought that God had any part in their day’s activities but that it was up to him to take action in accordance with their own natural. even sinful uman inclinations. Not only was Joab next guilty of murder, he had also violated the peace initiative arranged by King David. As we study the life of David, we next also do even see that David eventually collaborated in evil doing with Joab, for King David had shown false partiality and he wrongfully did not bring Joab immediately to justice for his act of murder. King David inadequately too merely spoke words of condemnation against Joab saying, “May the Lord repay the evildoer according to his evil”. “ So David reigned over all Israel; and he administered justice and righteousness for all his people. And Joab son of Zeruiah was over the army”. (1st Chronicles 18:14f) Why did David appoint Joab, whom he thought to be an evil man, to be head over the army of Israel? There is no indication that Joab had repented of his evil doing. Was Joab appointed commander simply because David had promised the position to the one who captured Jerusalem? Did the fact that Joab was David’s nephew, the son of David’s sister, make Joab a more desirable candidate? “ It clearly appears that even Kind David had erred in letting worldly men have the influence of close association with him, especially the sons of Zeruiah. “It appears at times that even King David allowed worldly political aspirations to wronfully choke out God’s truths from his consideration. At times his soul smothered his spirit and prevented spiritual communication to and from his God. (Hebrews 4:12) How similar were the spiritual problems of David to problems in our lives today.” How you do it is as important as what you do now as well..

“It is I who anointed you king over Israel and it is I who delivered you from the hand of Saul. I also gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your care, and I gave you the house of Israel and the house of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would have added to you many more things like these. Why have you despised the word of the Lord by doing evil in his sight? You have struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword, have taken his wife to be your wife, and have killed him with the sword of the sons of Ammon. Now therefore, the sword shall never depart from your house, because you have despised me and have taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your wife. …Behold I will raise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your companion, and he shall be with your wives in broad daylight. Indeed, you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel, and under the sun.” 2nd Samuel 12

“David then repented and acknowledged to Nathan that he had sinned. Nathan then told David that “the Lord has taken away your sin, you shall not die.” David was saved eternally from the fullness his sins but the earthly, fleshly consequences of his own sin had to be borne while he lived on earth. Even Moses also reaped the earthly consequences of his earthly sins and he did as a result die and not enter the promised land. . The things which God had revealed would happen to David did indeed happen to him during the reminder of his life.

And no matter who you are even the Bible through King David’s own life teaches us that unrepentant sin has next real,significant consequences even during one’s fleshly life that next cannot be avoided no matter who many tears were next shed. (2 Sam 12:15 KJV) “And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.16 David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth. 17 And the elders of his house arose, and went to him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them.18 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died.” Had King David immediately repented of his sins instead of him being confronted forcibly of them by the Prophet Nathan his own negative personal consequences would have been less as well. No matter who the person now supposedly is, even a King, a president, a leader, Real personal repentance is still required.

“We had learned that Henry Lyons, the leader of the National Baptist Convention USA, with an estimated 8.5 million members, admitted to having an affair with a female member of his staff. He came before the convention and asked for forgiveness.

“His speech was marvelous,” said one church member. “We all make some mistakes. It takes a man to get up in front of all these people and admit he’s wrong and ask for forgiveness.”

Let’s stop for a minute and get something straight. For a man to be unfaithful to his wife and engage in lovemaking with someone other than his wife, this is not just “some mistake”. It’s not like slobbering soup on your suit; and it’s not like forgetting to write down a check in your ledger and then bouncing a check due to insufficient funds. It’s not even like cheating on your 1040.

It may have come as no surprise then, that this same church convention body passed a resolution in support of President Clinton, who has apologized for his “inappropriate relationship” with a former White House intern.

“We stand firmly behind our president,” said Henry Lyons, who admitted to his own brand of marriage infidelity. “We’d like to see the Republican majority in Congress off his back. We thank God that he and Mrs. Clinton are faring well.”

Then the convention’s board of directors took up a mass offering for Lyons’ legal defense fund. More than 70 ministers each donated $500 or more and ushers emptied dozens of baskets filled with cash into a large trash bag What are we to do with this?

Some have wanted us to believe that what our leaders, religious and political do in private is of no public concern or consequence.

When finally the president was backed to the wall and forced to admit his sin, there quickly arose many voices calling for forgiveness. We are told that our president has been forgiven by his wife, so that should be all that’s necessary.

Let me register this reminder to all that “We got what we voted for!” Even before his election, we know that the president had not been faithful to his wife. And we elected him anyway. The fact is, the sin of our president is not his alone, it is ours as a nation. We have been saying for a long time now, we don’t care about character, we only care about the economy. “It’s the economy, stupid” has now become one of the better known political statements of the present generation. But look at what’s happening now – our unwillingness to deal with the character issue is bringing the economy to its knees. But please note, not only ours, but the economy of the world. And when the other nations of the world should be looking to America for stability and leadership, they find a president using the power of his office to gratify his own fleshly desires by carrying out a long term affair and making love in the hall way with a woman less than half his age.

This raises some very difficult questions. Does God’s forgiveness exempt us from the consequences of our sin? Should the American people do the Christian thing, and forgive the president? Of course, there are some who might suggest we have nothing to forgive because the sin was not against us, it was against the president’s wife, and his lovers. That may be a fair statement, but when the president looked us right in the camera’s eye and denied the accusations, he blatantly lied to us, and that lie does call for our forgiveness.

And what about punishment and its more positive side, discipline? Is it enough that God punishes, God disciplines?

One minister said of the president, “He couldn’t have a greater hell on Earth than he is facing right now. So we don’t need to do more to him. Who are we to play God?”

Or should we also initiate punishment and discipline toward someone who has sinned against us? The Scripture does make it clear that governments are ordained by God to punish evil, and we hope that ours will fulfill its God given responsibility toward all, regardless of status.

There is also the matter of trust. Can a leader lead who cannot be trusted? If blatant lies are convincingly proven, how can we trust a president to represent us before the world?

Some would make us think that we looking for perfection in a president. No one in this world today is sinless, so the argument goes, so we shouldn’t expect it of our president.

During these events, some have made reference to a prominent Biblical leader who also sinned the sin of adultery. He was forgiven, he did not resign nor was he dethroned.

Of course I’m speaking of the story of David and Bathsheba in II Samuel 11

A. First, what led up to the now famous sin of a King, specially selected by God and known to be a “man after God’s own heart”? The poet and song writer whose works have defined the very practice of worship for 3,000 years?

Following his story gives us a lesson about the downward steps of a godly man:

1. The first step was IDLENESS. David had established his national power sufficiently so as not to need to go out to war, he could delegate it to his General, Joab, while David the king stayed home. But he evidently still had a need to conquer.

This is of concern to us because in our present life style we have more idle time than aver before in the history of the world. We’ve all heard the saying, “An idle mind is the devil’s workshop.”

We know that idleness results in poverty “By much slothfulness the building decayeth; and through idleness of the hands the house droppeth through.” (KJV) If a man is lazy, the rafters sag; if his hands are idle, the house leaks. (NIV) Ecclesiastes 10:18

Slothfulness casteth into a deep sleep; and an idle soul shall suffer hunger. Proverbs 19:15

But worse yet, idleness leads to sin. Hear what God said about Sodom, “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. (KJV) (Ezekiel 16:49)

The Apostle Paul also gives a warning about idleness: “Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to.” (1 Timothy 5:13)

2. The second step toward engaging in sinful activity is INVESTIGATION of an off limits subject.

David allowed his eyes to wander, and fixed them on a beautiful, naked woman.

This too, more than ever, is our problem. Daily we have multiple opportunities to see things with our eyes which have the potential of leading us into sin. Television, New Stands, Bill Boards, real live people in our face.

Remember the First Lady, Eve? She was tempted by merely looking at the forbidden fruit. “When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye” (Genesis 3)

“Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?” (KJV) “Your eyes are too pure to look on evil; you cannot tolerate wrong. Why then do you tolerate the treacherous? Why are you silent while the wicked swallow up those more righteous than themselves?” (NIV) (Habakkuk 1:13)

For David, the investigation went further, he inquired about the woman that he saw. Thus he took another step down the road to sin. There’s no reason to investigate sin.

3. Then David took a most treacherous step, he IGNORED the mild warning provided by the messenger when he as much as said, “she’s a married woman.”

We might want to fault the messenger for not being more forceful. But perhaps we don’t understand the power of this man, the king. To go against the king’s wishes, to stand up to him, would be like suicide.

Let’s look at it this way. God always places a block of some sort, there’s always something in our way along the pathway toward sin. Maybe it’s that inner voice of conscience, or the memory of a parent’s warning, or a friend’s caution, or an unusual circumstance that catches our attention. God, in His mercy, makes an effort to keep us from taking that last step toward the fulfillment of the sin. I have a friend who had begun to go down the slippery slope into the world of pornography. In a distant city, far from anyone who could possibly recognize him, he slipped into a chair in the back corner of a strip bar. As he ordered a coke, he saw the door at the other end of the room open, and a uniformed Salvation Army man walked through the room, smiled at my friend, dropped a copy of the “War Cry” (a Christian magazine) on the table, then turned and walked back out of the bar without ever saying a word. God used that stranger to stop my friend dead in his tracks, and that night he took the first steps back away from the precipice.

But in our Biblical story, David ignored the hindrance, and took the next step. He

4. INVITED Bathsheba to his bed.

The sin didn’t end with the sexual encounter. When David learned the woman was pregnant, he initiated a cover-up attempt, first, bringing home the husband so it would look like the child to be born was the husband’s. But out of loyalty and solidarity with his fellow soldiers in the field, the husband refused to go home to sleep with his wife. David tried a second time by getting the man drunk. What that failed he secured the cooperation of his general to guarantee that the man would be killed in battle. Notice that not only Uriah died, but other men lost their lives in what was considered to be a foolish tactic, chasing men from the city all the way to the gate so that archers could shoot at them from the wall. From all appearances, it seemed that David had gotten away with it, he got away with adultery and murder.

But he didn’t; the prophet Nathan confronted him, and got him to confess his sin “against the Lord”. Immediately, David was told, “The Lord has taken away your sin.” And David lived happily ever after. Right? Wrong!

B. A series of terrible consequences marched into David’s life

1. First was the death of Bathsheba’s baby (II Samuel 12).

2. Then one of his sons raped the sister of another one of David’s sons. (II Samuel 13)

3. The brother of the rape victim took revenge, Absolom killed Amnon.

4. When David found out, he banished Absolom for three years (II Samuel 13)

5. Joab deceived David to get him to bring his son back to Jerusalem. (II Samuel 14), but that set the stage for an all out rebellion of Absolom, he successfully conspired and took over the throne for a while, David had to flee from the city (II Samuel 15).

6. Absolom was killed (II Samuel 18)

7. Later there was another rebellion by Sheba, who apparently tried to divide Israel from Judah.

So, our question gets asked again, when God forgives sin, are there no consequences? http://www.joyfulministry.com/davidt.htm

“In David’s later years his kingdom stretched from Dan in the north to Beersheba in the south. David,decided that he ought to take a census of the people of his expanded nation in order to know how big an army he could call out to battle. The scripture says that David’s decision was inspired by Satan. Joab started the taking of the census. However, the scripture says that the taking of the census was abhorrent to Joab. He stopped short of completing the entire census, leaving out the tribes of Levi and Benjamin. However he reported the partial count to David, apparently as a complete count of all Israel. God was not pleased that the census had been taken. The prophet, Gad, let David know that he had sinned and that all Israel was in danger of the immediate wrath of God. David’s heart troubled him and he cried out to God, “I have sinned greatly in what I have done. But now, 0 Lord, please take away the iniquity of Thy servant, for I have acted very foolishly.” However, the prophet Gad informed David that God had already determined to strike Israel. God was willing to let David chose from three possible punishments, which He might impose. David had to choose from: (1) seven years of famine to the entire land, (2) three months flight by David from his foes while they pursued him,’ or (3) three days of pestilence in the land. David chose the latter, with the statement to God, “I am in great distress. Let us now fall into the hand of the Lord for His mercies are great, but do not let me fall into the hands of man.” The pestilence which fell upon Israel resulted in the deaths of seventy thousand men from Dan to Beersheba. The scriptural record seems to indicate that God, at first, had intended to destroy far more people of Israel than the seventy thousand men who died. God sent His destroying angel to Jerusalem to kill the people there as well. David saw the angel of God standing beside the threshing floor of Araunah on the top of the mountain later to be known as Mount Zion. The angel had drawn his sword and was looking down on the city of Jerusalem. Then David spoke to the Lord and said, “Behold, it is I who have sinned, and it is I who has done wrong; but these sheep, what have they done? Please let Thy hand be against me and against my father’s house.” God said to the angel who destroyed the people, “It is enough! Now relax your hand!” God answered David’s plea through the prophet Gad, who relayed God’s message for David to go up to the threshing floor of Araunah and there erect an altar to the Lord. David immediately bought the mountain top which contained the threshing floor from a Jebusite, Araunah, and built an altar there. David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings to God there. Thus the Lord was moved by entreaty for the land, and the plague was held back from the people of Jerusalem. (2nd Samuel 24; 1st Chronicles 21)”

(Psa 51:1 KJV) To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came unto him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba. Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.

Yes even King David He was altogether human. But soley because he acknowledged and repented of his sins, God instead of rejecting him, like he did with King saul, he God next forgave King David and made everything work out for the ultimate good of him and all mankind. God brought ultimate spiritual good from the life of sinners like David if they remained faithful to God through acknowledgement and repentance of their sins. We are reminded that King Saul had not learned to deal with,, confess his own sins as well and paid real negative consequences for I too.

(1 Sam 15:23 KJV) For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Absolom now himself had taken his own vengeance in disobedience to the command of God who says all vengeance is His alone. (Rom 12:19 KJV) “Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.” He Absolom clearly now had done his muderous act out of anger, rage, and resentment over the rape and incest of his sister Tamar by her half-brother Amnon. Note also the unacceptable sins of Absolom next also who too had to otehrs pretended he was a good person and who next reblled and was killed for doing so too..”Absolom stole away the hearts of the men of Israel.” (2nd Samuel 15) Absolom usurped the throne and lawful authority of his father David. Absalom clearly in his false pride strives to make himself more popular with the people of Israel over his own father in an effort even to become the new king. Absolom, next during his brief rebellion, named Amasa as head of the army in place of Joab. David instructed all his men to avoid any harm to his son Absolom. Joab he ignored David’s wishes and killed David’s son.

“There is an ironic similarity between the death of Uriah and the death of Absalom. In killing Absalom, Joab ignores the king’s plea, “Deal gently with the young man, Absalom. Perhaps he’s remembering instead David’s contadictory message to him after the death of Uriah which David ordered. “Do not let this matter trouble you for the sword devours now one and now another.” What had in the past to King David made Joab friendship so useful in Uriah’s death is not the least bit useful next when it comes to the death of david’s son Absalom.” Joab does rather helped easily in two wrongful deaths.

Rebellion against David did not end with Absolom’s rebellion. The scripture speaks of a “worthless fellow” named Sheba, son of Bichri, a Benjamite, who for awhile rallied Israel against Judah. Sheba called out to the men of Israel, ‘ we have no portion in David, nor do we have inheritance in the son of Jesse; every man to his tents, 0 Israel”. The scripture then says, “So all the men of Israel withdrew from following David, and followed Sheba the son of Bichri; but the men of Judah remained steadfast to their king, from the Jordan even to Jerusalem.” King David as an old man was still plagued by uprising and rebellion against him. His fourth son, Adonijah, believing David to have become feeble, began to aspire to be king in his place.Adonijah himself was killed next too. The scripture also says that Joab rebelled, and had followed Adonijah, although he had not followed Absolom. Even Joab was killed and finally brought to justice(1st Kings 2) Those who show no mercy to others, receive none when it is their time to receive justice.

“Sin has consequences and personal effects next on many. He that covers his sin shall not prosper. The way of the transgressor is hard. Sin has effects. Don’t ever kid yourself — sin is never worth it. It is just too dangerous. The gratification it promises is so illusive, so deceiving — like a trap, it will spring shut on you, catch you, and then it will be too late. You’ll be left with it.” Wrong patterns of abuse, exploitation and alienation have now too often even divided our own families as surely as the family of King David. “Be kind to one another, tenderhearted forgiving one another, as God in Christ has forgiven you. Be imitators of God and live in love as Christ loved us. Loving only those who are easy to love, or onl those who serve us still however, contradicts the heart of the gospel of Jesus Christ.. Let’s all learn our lessons even from Biblical history too so we won’t need to repeat them. Let’s learn also from King David that though personal forgiveness for sin was, is extended, for many negative consequences still follow those who ddid not stop on the road to sin and did not exercise God’s grace to overcome sins. ”

(Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

(Heb 12:15 KJV) Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;”

The ongoing false wars between the professing Christian pastors and many others

1: It has long been recognized that the fax is a legal document and it is also an accepted legal fact that when a person sends a letter, even an electronic one, to another person, and they cannot deny they do not get it now too especially with copies being sent also to many other witnesses, and this letter stated openly their unacceptable faults, that after a reasonable amount of time say 6 months, they the accused next have not denied back the accusations, or the letter, they themselves now next cannot sue the originator person for slander, deformation of character or what ever now as well. But per the New Testament the accused they do not even need still now an original document cosigned by a barrister to repent off now next as well. This accusation of their wrong doing(s) undeniably now can also be done simply verbally with 2 or 3 witnesses.

2: It is also undeniable that the Pastors of the Toronto airport Christian fellowship Church have done even Biblical wrong by going to court instead another professing Christian brother his suppsoed slander, instead of firstly using other means to resolve the issue.(1 Cor 4:12 KJV) And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:(1 Cor 6:7 KJV) Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?(1 Cor 12:26 KJV) And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.(Phil 1:29 KJV) For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;(Phil 4:12 KJV) I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.(2 Tim 3:12 KJV) Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.(Heb 11:25 KJV) Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;(Heb 13:3 KJV) Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.(Rev 2:10 KJV) Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life

.3: Evangelical pastors should note especially this.. One does not even have to have any of the details, or now even witnesses of the wrong doings alleged, when one accuses his fellow brother of wrong doings, for next all one has to do is to have witnesses that one has asked the offending party to repent, and only 2 or 3 persons as witnesses now are required… .. (Mat 18:15 KJV) Moreover if they brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained they brother.16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. (Eph 5:21 KJV) Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

4: The term brother now used by Jesus above is a generic one, including any individual of the whole body of Jesus Christ now, not falsely being limited to a brother of a specific local church only, The term neighbor covered the rest of the persons.

5: Do also clearly note as per Jesus own Instruction to all of his followers, the pastors now of TACF included, that there is no valid New Testament prohibition above too that now excludes the matter from being made next public next as well if satisfaction ha not been obtained by the accuser…. rather it is mandatory next.

6: These clearly crooked pastors they they have wrongfully resorted to name calling, that they now all also do need to repent, to make restitution, even those pastors from the Toronto Airport Christian fellowship church, for the undeniably have been, are themselves firstly guilty of character assassination, slander, but they also behaving in an unchrist manner towards a Christian Brother

(Gal 6:1 KJV) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

7: Now whether the accused pastor(s), individual next repents or not, the final judgment itself will also next be undertaken next by God himself. I can assured you it will be a severe one too. And they will certainly have wished they had repented when they were first had been asked too. I myself have too often now seen the pale, white faces of the trembling pastors and their wives after them being fully episode for who they really were, them there recognizing that the inevitable judgment of God was now forthcoming here, and too often now in Canada.(Heb 10:31 KJV) It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high-minded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;(Heb 3:12 KJV) Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.8: There is also no doubt about it that the rightfully new testament church is a congregational one, run by a plurality of elders, and pastors are only one of the many equal ruling elders only all mutually submitting one to another too. (1 Pet 5:1 KJV) The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:9: There is also no doubt about the “tithing” giving today is not binding, but a voluntary act, and the a clear portion, 1/7 of the tithes and offerings, are also to be used to help direct the local poor Christians in the local church and/or any other Christian church, and these poor people are not limited to being only the supposedly poor pastors, church workers, missionary now as well. But even this issue was long time discussed and resolved by the Apostles in the early new Testament church by the appointment of deacons to oversee this ministry. http://pbulow.tripod.com/tithing.html

The Lord God stated that the Levites would have no inheritance of land but would be given a portion of the tithe instead. Such an injunction would also apply today to anyone claiming a right to a tithe too.Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites.. The tithe was also paid directly to the storehouse only every 3rd year? and the other two years the tither himself enjoyed the tithes himself by feasting on it?

(Deu 12:17 KJV) Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:(Deu 14:23 KJV) And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

Also, every third year, the Israelite was required to store his tithe in his own town to feed the fatherless, aliens, and widows as required by the Lord. This was the tithe of the poor. (ma’aser ani)(Deuteronomy 14:22-29, 26:12-15) (Amos 4:4-5)1 Corinthians 16:1,2 Giving to needy saints”(Acts 4:35 KJV) And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.(Acts 6:1 KJV) And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. 2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables. 3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. 4 But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word. 5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: 6 Whom they set before the apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them.(1 Tim 3:10 KJV) And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.(1 Tim 3:13 KJV) For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.Note this Biblical instruction that any pastor, church worker, poor person who owns a piece of property, real estate, a home they cannot even now avail themselves of any portion of the tithe now still too.10 Crooked pastors, crooked churches can be removed , even their tax exemptions removed, and their ability to give tax receipts removed as well by the government as had been done now in the Calgary Christian center church. .(Rev 2:5 KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(Mat 7:1 KJV) Judge not, that ye be not judged.(Mat 7:2 KJV) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.(Mat 7:3 KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?(Mat 7:4 KJV) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?(Mat 7:5 KJV) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

The prominent republican US senator “Mr. Grassley may send letters to other ministries in the future, aides said. Because of news media coverage of the letters to the six ministries, his office has been flooded with calls about them and other church organizations, too, the aides said. Six weeks after Senator Charles E. Grassley asked six well-known evangelistic ministries to provide information on how they spent donors’ money, only two have complied. The lawyers for one ministry have asked for more time from Mr. Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, who sent letters to the organizations in early November 2007. Three other ministries have not been in recent contact with the committee or have said they will not cooperate.”

Senator Grasley review of selected organizations now is firstly unfair, dishonest, immoral, discriminatory approach in itself. Any review of the alleged misappropriations of funds needs to start by reviewing all of the Christian churches firstly of all denominations now too, and it also would include the circumstances by which the funds were collected, the method of appeal used to collect the money by all of the churches. And these reviews would necessity require full review of the false use of the pressure of “tithing” put upon the givers, contrary to voluntarily, cheerful giving, including a review of any and all preachers stating falsely now that “tithing” itself is still (Biblicaly )mandatory , applicable commandment by God today even. And thus even here misleading persons with prosperty tithing appeal to pressure people into giving. Next the review needs to look at how the collected tithing money was used directly as well. Firstly it was the priests themselves who were charged with stealing the tithes in the Old Testament book of Malachi. Secondly very clearly in both the Old and especially in the New testament Church tithing was always clearly, undeniable associated with helping directly the local and distant poor people. (Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. ( But most evangelical chruches do not do so stilltoday, and wrongfully too)

One of the biggest demander of these financial reviews to Senator Grassley now was an undeniable crook himself, as often witnessed by me, and so was his own Pentecostal Church for they wrongfully tended to never use the clearly designated ( Biblical) portion by the Old Testament of 1/7 to give it directly to the local poor persons for their needs. For they were all part of “the rich who persecute the poor people” club that prevails in many churches falsely today.. Even today this Pentecostal church falsely insists that to become a member of their church one has to sign an agreement that they would “tithe” to the Trinity church. There is no such Biblical requirement in any part of the New Testament as well. And had the church and their members also paid their full taxes and not committed tax evasion their would b e also more money for the government s to help the poor and needy persons now too. This Pentecostal church itself basically, wrongfully, falsely does not help any poor people today, not even in their own church, or in their city and do note this that both they both had falsely justified their immoral approach, their lack of compassion for others, their not fulfilling the clear Biblical obligations of using the tithes to help the poor, sick needy persons by them both stating that all of the poor and sick persons were sick due to their own personal sins. This itself is mostly an unacceptable lie, a distortion of reality.

Two of the most despicable false teachings found even elsewhere but especially in the Pentecostal- evangelical circles today included that it is God’s will that we all be financially prosperous, how you got it may not matter? and that is a sin to be found poor and/or sick.. these teachings are despicable because these self centered Christians should have known better.. and they use poverty, sickness as an excuse to ostracize, kick out falsely the sick and needy, sick persons even from their own churches.. the too often bad pastors often ask the poor and sick people who cannot give to them rather to leave.. God does not overlook any of this wrong doings and he has his own way of punishing such bad persons. We had such bad persons teaching these lies around even at the time of Christ”

Here is a fact I have also clearly noticed, in real life the last 50 years as well, too many, most of the people who did the loudest, biggest complaining about the supposedly bad sinful acts of others they themselves were firstly now even doing the very same thing, and that was why they were so sensitive now about such supposed acts in others. Now that has included not only pastors, a housewife, brothers, brothers and sister in laws too, acquaintances. Clearly they all were wrongfully hoping to alleviate their own low self esteem, their own personal guilty feelings, the bad feelings of their own inadequacies by diverting it to the others by bashing the others but this will, does not work. They all, pastors now included they firstly still do have to take full responsibility and real repentance for their own sins, even for their own stealing, lying, tax evasions, adultery, slandering too. Sadly even these days when any persons does wrong they tend to have not only bad associates, accomplices, the false support of others, their followers too for not repenting of their wrong doings even… all courtesy now of the devil as well. None of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

Rom. 14:7Whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s. Rom. 14:8Let no man seek his own: but every man another’s wealth. I Cor. 10:24Ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s. I Cor. 6:20Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death. For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better. Phil. 1:20-23 I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Gal. 2:19, 20 “

A brother Paul

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“Men feel the economy and military defense are top issues” – and the women tend to be more spiritually, church inclined.. and thus tend to significantly live longer over men too,.

The Department of National Defence of all things needs to rewrite their page http://www.dnd.ca/hr/religions/engraph/religions07_e.asp about the Christian and Missionary Alliance chruch in Canada

but firstly what is the Canadian federal department of defense doing having even now an interent page on religion, churches? RSVP

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UK ISPs pressed to explain slow broadband
Telecoms.com (subscription), UK - 11 Oct 2007
The UK regulator’s consumer advisory body, the Ofcom Consumer Panel, has called on internet service providers to clarify advertised broadband speeds. …

ISPs quizzed over slow broadband
Which?, UK - 10 Oct 2007
Britain’s top internet service providers (ISPs) have been asked to explain why consumers often don’t get advertised broadband connection speeds. …

In august Which? reported that although many packages advertise speeds of ‘up to’ 8 megabytes per second, the average speed for such connections was 2.7 Mbps.
http://www.scenta.co.uk/Gadgets/1707239/ofcom-calls-for-try-before-you-buy-broadband.htm

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UK ISPs pressed to explain slow broadband Telecoms.com (subscription), UK - 11 Oct 2007 The UK regulator’s consumer advisory body, the Ofcom Consumer Panel, has called on internet service providers to clarify advertised broadband speeds. …

ISPs quizzed over slow broadband Which?, UK - 10 Oct 2007 Britain’s top internet service providers (ISPs) have been asked to explain why consumers often don’t get advertised broadband connection speeds. …

In august Which? reported that although many packages advertise speeds of ‘up to’ 8 megabytes per second, the average speed for such connections was 2.7 Mbps. http://www.scenta.co.uk/Gadgets/1707239/ofcom-calls-for-try-before-you-buy-broadband.htm

“Men feel the economy and military defense are top issues” – and the women tend to be more spiritually, church inclined.. and thus tend to significantly live longer over men too,.

The Department of National Defence of all things needs to rewrite their page http://www.dnd.ca/hr/religions/engraph/religions07_e.asp about the Christian and Missionary Alliance chruch in Canada

but firstly what is the Canadian federal department of defense doing having even now an interent page on religion, churches? RSVP

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UK ISPs pressed to explain slow broadband
Telecoms.com (subscription), UK - 11 Oct 2007
The UK regulator’s consumer advisory body, the Ofcom Consumer Panel, has called on internet service providers to clarify advertised broadband speeds. …

ISPs quizzed over slow broadband
Which?, UK - 10 Oct 2007
Britain’s top internet service providers (ISPs) have been asked to explain why consumers often don’t get advertised broadband connection speeds. …

In august Which? reported that although many packages advertise speeds of ‘up to’ 8 megabytes per second, the average speed for such connections was 2.7 Mbps.
http://www.scenta.co.uk/Gadgets/1707239/ofcom-calls-for-try-before-you-buy-broadband.htm